<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554</id><updated>2012-02-01T10:02:16.767-08:00</updated><category term='Evangelicalism'/><category term='Eschatology'/><category term='Islam'/><category term='fundamentalism'/><category term='Depression'/><category term='Homosexuality'/><category term='Global Development'/><category term='Human Rights'/><category term='Civil Law'/><category term='Culture'/><category term='Social justice'/><category term='Salvation'/><category term='atheism'/><category term='Intelligent Design'/><category term='Women'/><category term='Humanitarian Aid'/><category term='Creationism'/><category term='Poverty'/><category term='Politics'/><category term='Universalism'/><category term='book news'/><category term='International Issues'/><category term='Hell'/><category term='Church'/><category term='Evolution'/><category term='Sex'/><category term='Bible'/><category term='Gay Rights'/><category term='Writing'/><category term='Faith'/><category term='Jesus'/><category term='Abortion'/><category term='Book reviews'/><title type='text'>Deep Thought Pub</title><subtitle type='html'>THE VIRTUAL HANG-OUT FOR INDEPENDENT THINKERS &gt;&gt;  Rethinking faith, politics, culture, and sex.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>70</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-6857651295147013859</id><published>2012-01-26T12:40:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-26T13:56:41.236-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sex'/><title type='text'>Price of Biblicism Part II - Mars Hill and Mark Driscoll</title><content type='html'>I thought I'd go onto another topic, then a friend sent me a link to this blog, which discusses a recent &lt;a href="http://matthewpaulturner.net/jesus-needs-new-pr/mark-driscolls-church-discipline-contract-looking-for-true-repentance-at-mars-hill-church-sign-on-the-dotted-line/"&gt;church discipline action taken by Mark Driscoll's church&lt;/a&gt;, Mars Hill, right here in Seattle. Talk about spiritual manipulation and abuse!This is a another sad example of the price of biblical literalism, as a church uses Matthew 18 and a few other verses to "discipline" a member who fell into "sexual sin" (having non-sex contact with a single woman and having sex with his finance). They issued him a church discipline contract to sign that spells out his requirements for gaining restoration (including writing out his whole "detailed sexual sin and emotional attachment" life history! - and "all sins" during this time period!). Then when he refused to sign it, leadership sent instructions to the church to not even talk to this guy unless he was willing to abide by the hoops they set up (check out the level of control they stipulated in &lt;a href="http://matthewpaulturner.net/jesus-needs-new-pr/mark-driscolls-gospel-shame-the-truth-about-discipline-excommunication-and-cult-like-control-at-mars-hill/"&gt;the letter to the church&lt;/a&gt;). So, he's basically booted out of the church with the whole congregation not only knowing his "sin," but commanded to shun him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Where do I begin? This whole case makes me so angry. It's similar to what I encountered in PDI/SGM back in the 80s and 90s and share in my book on the chapters on &lt;a href="http://www.michaelcampbooks.com"&gt;church and bible abuse&lt;/a&gt;. First of all, even if one believes the Bible should be applied this way to spell our exactly how to discipline someone (which I don't), Mars Hill has gone way beyond the Bible! Where does it say draw up a contract in Matthew 18? Or get the guy to spill his guts by listing all his sins? Moreover, when Jesus said if a sinner doesn't listen to one or two or three others, then tell it to the church, he wasn't talking about broadcasting it to a mega church. The term is "gathering" and in a local setting it was always a small group. When Jesus said "treat him as a tax collector or pagan," since when does that mean don't talk to him unless he's ready to sign a contract and grovel to the demands of leadership? Last I checked, Jesus treated the Gentiles and tax collectors pretty well and told his disciples to do the same.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The amazing thing is, when you read the case, you'll see that by any reasonable standard the guy really did repent of his "sin." He just refused to sign the contract and good for him. But again, this case also reveals the incredible paranoia of the church over sex, a obsession that doesn't follow from a fair reading of the Bible as I explain in my chapter called The Sex God. You see, technically, having sex with your fiance, if love rules, is not a sin. I don't have time to go into it now but this is one of those fabricated offenses the church overreacts to. Look, read the case. This man wasn't spotless in what he did, but he's now paying the price for a church that adheres to a strict biblicism--and one that even goes beyond what the Bible teaches. This blantent spiritual abuse and manipulation and controlling behavior must be exposed.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-6857651295147013859?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/6857651295147013859/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=6857651295147013859' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/6857651295147013859'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/6857651295147013859'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2012/01/price-of-biblicism-part-ii-mars-hill.html' title='Price of Biblicism Part II - Mars Hill and Mark Driscoll'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-1529419823030969548</id><published>2012-01-09T19:09:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-28T15:54:13.914-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>The Price of Biblicism</title><content type='html'>I've written &lt;a href="http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2011/09/root-of-anti-gay-church.html"&gt;elsewhere&lt;/a&gt; about the dangers of fundamentalist or evangelical biblicism--the practice of attempting to apply the Bible's teaching based on the assumption that it is inerrant, self-sufficient, self-evident, internally consistent, and universally applicable. One obvious example is the way biblicists use the Bible to condemn gays and lesbians to an agonizing struggle to become "ex-gay" or remain celibate. Others are when they use it to preach salvation in very exclusive ways or still another, when they teach the supposed "end times," which is, by the way it's taught, extremely manipulative.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These results are the "price of biblicism," the fruit of making the Bible into something that the original writers (and God, I believe) never intended it to be. Another grave example I highlight here is the real-life case study of Soveriegn Grace Ministries (SGM - formerly People of Destiny International), a 30-year-old denomination that is now going through a very public investigation of ongoing spiritual abuse of church members and leaders. The root of this, I contend, is this denomination's strict adherence to biblicism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The heart of most of the problems in this denomination is how it views its leaders' authority. For example, they take very literally Hebrews 13:17, which says "...Obey your leaders and submit to them.  For they are keeping watch over your souls as those who will have to give…an account." And as the leader of SGM, C.J. Mahaney, recently taught, they believe God has inspired and preserved these specific words in Hebrews with their churches in mind.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To see the fruit of taking such a Scripture so literally and applying it to church leaders, pastors, and members, one only has to visit two websites that track a myriad of cases of serious, spiritual and emotional abuse. &lt;a href="http://www.sgmsurvivors.com//"&gt;SGMSurvivors.com&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://sgmrefuge.com/"&gt;SGMRefuge.com&lt;/a&gt; are chock full of stories from former SGM members who report on specific examples of leaders using verses like Heb. 13:17 to control people's lives, impose psycological guilt trips, and manipulate/reject members or other leaders when they stand up to the abuse. It's a sad commentary, but important for people to be aware of so I encourage interested readers to check these sites out. The abuse can only stop when things come to light.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was recently reminded of these websites when I noticed one of the founding leaders of SGM, Larry Tomzcak, had finally posted &lt;a href="http://www.sgmsurvivors.com/?p=3203"&gt;his story&lt;/a&gt; of how he was spiritually abused more than 13 years ago. Also, having attended one of these churches back in the mid-to-late 80s and early 90s, I have personal experience. Finally, one friend of mine from those days, Darla Melancon, wrote a book about her family's abuse (I just discovered last year), called &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Things-Learned-After-Kicked-Church/dp/1452064970/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1326167694&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;The Things I Learned After Being Kicked Out of Church.&lt;/a&gt; These sites and this book is a massive case study on the horrific price some people have to pay for biblical literalism.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-1529419823030969548?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/1529419823030969548/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=1529419823030969548' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/1529419823030969548'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/1529419823030969548'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2012/01/price-of-biblicism.html' title='The Price of Biblicism'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-5661506625552056994</id><published>2012-01-01T18:18:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-01T18:38:18.801-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gay Rights'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Book reviews'/><title type='text'>Buried Truth Revealed Pisses Off Religious Elites</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vBm4LywOS8s/TwEWPxI_brI/AAAAAAAAADE/ylxIAuYvi30/s1600/kairos.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 131px; height: 200px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vBm4LywOS8s/TwEWPxI_brI/AAAAAAAAADE/ylxIAuYvi30/s200/kairos.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5692855864117915314" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;BOOK REVIEW: &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Kairos&lt;/span&gt;, by Paul E. Hartman - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Kairos-Paul-Hartman/dp/0615495095/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1325461706&amp;amp;sr=1-1"&gt;Buy on Amazon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What if someone found sound historical proofs from Jesus’ lost years that revealed two shocking revelations about Jesus’ life? What if conservatives considered one revelation to be blasphemous, and liberals counted the other as mythological? Paul Hartman, in his new religious thriller, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Kairos&lt;/span&gt;—a term that signifies a point when God breaks into human history—deftly answers those questions. You don’t want to miss the ramifications found in this book.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When Hartman’s protagonist, Dr. Lute Jonson, a world-class archeologist and Dead Sea Scroll scholar, decides to unveil to the world these heretofore hidden proofs (scroll fragments accurately carbon-dated to the early first century), all hell breaks loose. Jonson inadvertently puts himself, his family, and friends in grave danger as powerful fundamentalist religious and secular forces (where else could you find Vatican officials and CIA agents working together?) race to stop him before he reaches a international media outlet. You won’t be disappointed with the book’s global intrigue that takes you from Jerusalem to northern Alaska, or its heart-stopping twists and turns, or an ending that’s anything but predictable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What’s at stake, according to some, is the faith of a billion Christians worldwide. But the message in Hartman’s fictional account of what &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;could&lt;/span&gt; be, goes beyond what the book’s characters think to the heart of Jesus’ message: follow the way of love, not historically-bound law, and embrace this love that drives out fear. Moreover, it goes to the heart of how we read the Bible. This engaging book reveals both a Jesus we never knew and one we always did, while reminding us to embrace the marginalized of our day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Don’t let the few places where the protagonist sounds overly religious scare you away (the ongoing internal prayers and scripture citations were a tad overkill for me). You’ll get beyond that minor wrinkle and into a fascinating story and premise with realistic Dead Sea Scroll scholarship. I recommend this book! * * * * * [five stars]&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-5661506625552056994?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/5661506625552056994/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=5661506625552056994' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/5661506625552056994'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/5661506625552056994'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2012/01/buried-truth-revealed-pisses-off.html' title='Buried Truth Revealed Pisses Off Religious Elites'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vBm4LywOS8s/TwEWPxI_brI/AAAAAAAAADE/ylxIAuYvi30/s72-c/kairos.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-4905386044689822798</id><published>2011-12-17T12:46:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-17T12:53:31.693-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Poverty'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jesus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Politics'/><title type='text'>The Meaning of Following Jesus, not Christmas</title><content type='html'>I just read Jim Wallis’ &lt;a href="http://sojo.net/blogs/2011/12/15/real-war-christmas-fox-news/#disqus_thread"&gt;The Real War on Christmas… by Fox News&lt;/a&gt;. Boy, did he get that one right. In a nutshell, Wallis calls the annual counter attack by Fox News (against the supposed “war” on Christmas by our secular society) a misguided defense of our cultural and commercial Christmas symbols, not a defense of the real meaning of Jesus’ message.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  When defenders of our Christian heritage scoff at the secular or government forces that replace “Merry Christmas” with “Happy Holidays” or no longer refer to  “Christmas” trees or ban a crèche scene on public property, they inadvertently miss the genuine message from which our Christmas tradition derives: that God’s personal expression of Himself in Christ transforms us to be truly human, radically loving, and defenders of the poor and oppressed. And, as Wallis reminds us, Mary’s declaration foretelling Jesus’ birth and purpose, that God dethrones the powerful, lifts the lowly, fills the hungry, and sends the rich away empty, is what Fox and its defenders would call class warfare. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  Defending symbols and terms is not important. Acting out the message behind them is. The way I see it, Fox News defends civil religion, not spiritual transformation or good news for the poor. Yes, our family will exchange gifts and rally around our Christmas tree. But the real “Christmas” stuff happens when we choose &lt;a href="http://www.opportunity.org/give/clients"&gt;a poor African entrepreneur&lt;/a&gt; to give a microloan to, correspond with one of our sponsored children in Malawi, or write a letter to &lt;a href="http://www.amnestyusa.org/writeathon/cases.php"&gt;a forgotten prisoner&lt;/a&gt; in Yemen. In other words, when you or I love the physically or spiritually poor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I welcome your comments on what Christmas means to you.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-4905386044689822798?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/4905386044689822798/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=4905386044689822798' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/4905386044689822798'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/4905386044689822798'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2011/12/meaning-of-following-jesus-not.html' title='The Meaning of Following Jesus, not Christmas'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-2592906025532145381</id><published>2011-11-21T20:15:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-21T22:50:03.906-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gay Rights'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Universalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eschatology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Politics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><title type='text'>31 Reasons I Left Evangelicalism and Became a Progressive But Not a Liberal</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;Okay, in the spirit of Rachel Held Evans' blog post on &lt;a href="http://rachelheldevans.com/lousy-evangelical"&gt;13 Things that Make Me a Lousy Evangelical&lt;/a&gt; (and a Lousy Progressive and a Lousy Feminist), I've come up with my own list of 31 reasons I left evangelicalism and became a progressive (for lack of a better term) but not a liberal. So, here we go:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. I'm allergic to contempary Christian music.&lt;br /&gt;2. I never believed in the inerrancy of the Bible (and think it's rather obvious it's not inerrant) and got tired of hiding that fact.&lt;br /&gt;3. I realized biblicism (the notion that the Bible is infallible, internally consistent, universally applicable, contains all the truth we need, and makes us certain about most everything) is intellectually hallow and dishonest (see &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Bible-Made-Impossible-Biblicism-Evangelical/dp/1587433036/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1321942776&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;The Bible Made Impossible&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;4. I think it's not only fine to try to ascertain what Jesus meant or what Bible authors meant, in the original culture, but more importantly, if we don't, we're not taking the Bible seriously. We love tradition over truth.&lt;br /&gt;5. I think it's perfectly acceptable to pick and choose what one thinks is inspired and true in the Bible. After all, that's how the Bible was composed. Someone else picked and chose and copied and translated, so why can't we? Why do we have to take it on faith and they get to decide? How does one do that you ask? Have an open mind, look at objective biblical scholarship, use some common sense, and let the Spirit speak to your heart. What? You think that's crazy? If accepting everthing at face value works, then why does evangelicalism have a thousand denominations and opinions about what the Bible teaches?&lt;br /&gt;6. Despite 2-5 above, I think much of the Bible is inspired by God.&lt;br /&gt;7. After studying the historical and cultural context of the Bible and learning how it has sometimes been miscopied, and frequently mistranslated and misinterpreted (by people who care more about tradition than truth), I find it a remarkably progressive book--okay, okay, minus that stuff about genocide and killing women and children, etc.&lt;br /&gt;8. I might be called to love him, but I don't like Rick Warren, and especially those Hawaiian shirts he wears.&lt;br /&gt;9. R.C. Sproul defending Mark Driscoll makes me a bit nauseous. Okay, a lot nauseous.&lt;br /&gt;10. I not only think believing in The Rapture is delusional, but also believing we live in the end times too.&lt;br /&gt;11. I believe Jesus already returned (figuratively) in the first century (you gotta read my book).&lt;br /&gt;12. I believe the Bible teaches the good guys get left behind (again, it's in the book).&lt;br /&gt;13. I sometimes agree with R.C. Sproul. For example, he actually pretty much believes #11 too.&lt;br /&gt;14. Going to a U2 concert is a spiritual experience for me.&lt;br /&gt;15. I no longer believe evolution is the enemy.&lt;br /&gt;16. I think intelligent design is a grand idea that needs to be seriously considered.&lt;br /&gt;17. I think one can be a practicing gay or lesbian and still follow Christ.&lt;br /&gt;18. I'm a microbrew enthusiast and love to talk theology over a couple of brews.&lt;br /&gt;19. &lt;a href="http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2011/09/why-rick-perry-makes-me-nervous.html"&gt;Rick Perry makes me really nervous&lt;/a&gt; (but not as much as Sarah Palin).&lt;br /&gt;20. I hate sexual exploitation but find some erotica perfectly acceptable for adults.&lt;br /&gt;21. I think the evangelical church is sex-negative (okay, there are a few good evangelical marriage sex manuals out there, but that's the only exception).&lt;br /&gt;22. I think Charlize Theron is hot and I'm not afraid to admit it.&lt;br /&gt;23. I voted for Barak Obama. I still support him but see a lot of things he could do better.&lt;br /&gt;24. I hate it when Republicans accuse Obama of doing or proposing things that George W. Bush (increased the deficit by $5 trillion) and Ronald Reagan did (raised taxes 11 times).&lt;br /&gt;25. I think what evangelicals call "church" is a non-biblical, man-made construct (back to my book, and yes, these are &lt;a href="http://www.michaelcampbooks.com/progressive-christian/books.htm"&gt;shameless plugs&lt;/a&gt;!).&lt;br /&gt;26. I think nine times out of ten spiritual disciplines (praying, fasting, time in the Word, worship, going to cutting-edge, spiritual conferences, and following the latest, trendy book -- think Purpose Driven Life) becomes a legalistic treadmill.&lt;br /&gt;27. After studying the issue and examining the historical and biblical evidence, I became a Universalist.&lt;br /&gt;28. I think the emergent "conversation" is good (and I really like Brian McLaren), but wish they'd come to a concluson once in awhile. Just for grins.&lt;br /&gt;29. I often disagree with Bishop Spong, but sometimes I do agree with him.&lt;br /&gt;30. I like Bishop Spong way more than Rick Warren or Mark Driscoll.&lt;br /&gt;31. I think the truth is embodied in a composite of Marcus Borg and N.T. Wright.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I could go on, but you get the picture. Please comment, challenge me, and share your own lists of where you're at!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-2592906025532145381?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/2592906025532145381/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=2592906025532145381' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/2592906025532145381'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/2592906025532145381'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2011/11/31-reasons-i-left-evangelicalism-and.html' title='31 Reasons I Left Evangelicalism and Became a Progressive But Not a Liberal'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-1505452763229086361</id><published>2011-11-13T17:05:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-13T19:09:16.433-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Human Rights'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Humanitarian Aid'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Social justice'/><title type='text'>Hope for Forgotten Prisoners</title><content type='html'>This year, there were at least two prisoners who caught our attention in the media: Troy Davis and Amanda Knox. Davis spent 20 years on death row for murder--a crime for which recent evidence strongly supported his innocence. Despite an &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Amnesty International&lt;/span&gt; petition signed by a million people worldwide to commute his sentence and other pleas by politicians, Davis was executed by lethal injection in September. "I know you're still convinced [of my guilt]... but I am innocent... I am so sorry for your loss. I really am," he said to the victim's family in his final words.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then there was American student Amanda Knox from Seattle, held for four years in Italy on murder charges and finally found innocent and released on appeal last month. Knox, along with Raffaele Sollecito, was a victim of a miscarriage of justice by an Italian court. Despite their ordeal, compared to prisoners of conscience in corners of the world out of the spotlight, they were the lucky ones.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today, hundreds of forgotten prisoners languish in detention, some in the most squalid conditions, for crimes they did not commit, and often for merely defending human rights. Because of the work of Amnesty International, there is hope for these prisoners. Next month, Amnesty is holding their &lt;a href="http://www.amnestyusa.org/writeathon/?c=W0010EAIAR2&amp;amp;msource=W0010EAIAR2&amp;amp;tr=y&amp;amp;auid=9710267"&gt;Global Write for Rights initiative&lt;/a&gt; to get people involved to shine a light on these forgotten souls. &lt;span style="display: block;" id="formatbar_Buttons"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I helped organize two events last year and know from experience how effective they are. When you simply write a letter to a prisoner or a government official on behalf of a prisoner, a lost soul is encouraged, prison conditions improve, and sometimes the deluge of letters help to get people released. "I am alive today, after 34 arrests, because members of Amnesty International spoke out for me," said Jenni Williams, human rights defender in Zimbabwe. And there are many more &lt;a href="http://www.amnestyusa.org/writeathon/successes.php?c=W0010EAIAR2"&gt;successes&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I encourage you to get involved in a local write-a-thon (or just do it individually) and see how this small, strategic gesture--writing a handful of letters to several of the &lt;a href="http://www.amnestyusa.org/writeathon/cases.php?c=W0010EAIAR2"&gt;14 cases&lt;/a&gt; highlighted this year--can help change the world and shine a light of hope to the oppressed. I'm helping to organize another event in Seattle with a local Amnesty chapter. Come join us.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-1505452763229086361?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/1505452763229086361/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=1505452763229086361' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/1505452763229086361'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/1505452763229086361'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2011/11/hope-for-forgotten-prisoners.html' title='Hope for Forgotten Prisoners'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-568255460322544528</id><published>2011-10-28T20:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-10-28T21:39:25.623-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Global Development'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Poverty'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Humanitarian Aid'/><title type='text'>Smart Aid to Somali Refugees</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-B-XZqZCyJfo/TquBBKbUN8I/AAAAAAAAAC4/cO-saeA_tjA/s1600/somali_refugees.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px; height: 150px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-B-XZqZCyJfo/TquBBKbUN8I/AAAAAAAAAC4/cO-saeA_tjA/s200/somali_refugees.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5668766412954679234" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Finally. The humanitarian community is wising up when it comes to providing emergency food aid during famine or disaster. But, as usual, the United States is lagging behind.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm gathering information for my second book on innovative ways to change the world and erradicate global poverty. Microfinance is at the forefront with its microloans distributed to groups of poor entrepreneurs. When you add in the new products that microfinance institutions are providing today--agricultural loans, cell phone banking, and crop/funeral/health insurance--the future for your typical poor urban dweller or villager is hopeful. These programs are effective and are reaching more and more people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But then there's food aid, an intervention that is notorious, believe it or not, for doing more harm than good. One, it's expensive (shipping halfway across the planet to remote areas); two, it takes weeks or months to arrive; three, it presents a security nightmare (stolen or sold on local markets); four, it's culturally inappropriate (why would an African want to eat American grain and why are foreigners distributing it?); and five, it hurts local economies. How can local farmers' produce compete with free or discounted food?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The better solution? Vouchers distributed by local NGOs. Seattle-based &lt;a href="http://www.worldconcern.org/"&gt;World Concern&lt;/a&gt; has designed &lt;a href="http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/in-famine-vouchers-can-be-tickets-to-survival/?nl=todaysheadlines&amp;amp;emc=thab1&amp;amp;utm_source=World+Concern+Main+List&amp;amp;utm_campaign=3ac0aa6ab6-Famine_NYTimes_10_28_2011&amp;amp;utm_medium=email"&gt;a brilliant system&lt;/a&gt; to feed desparate victims of drought and famine in eastern Kenya and southern Somalia. In fact, most nations donating food aid are moving towards giving vouchers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No surprise when you see the benefits. Food vouchers are faster, cheaper, more dignified for the needy, and don't harm the area's economy. In fact, they grow it. Regional farmers have a new market and local merchants have new business: distributing food to places like Dhobley, Somalia near the Dabaab refugee complex. A Somali NGO, the African Rescue Committee, determines who should get vouchers and distributes them. Needy families simply go shopping for their food in local markets. Shop owners accept vouchers knowing that, when they match up with duplicates, they receive a promissory note and eventual reimbursement to their bank account (electronic transfers from Nairobi of all things!). Unfortunately, US AID has not adopted this superior method of intervention. Why? Our motive isn't entirely pure. Our food aid is surplus crops the government buys to keep prices high for US producers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet, this voucher and local-NGO-partnership idea is the kind of ingenuity poor people desperately need. And donors need to insist on it. We really shouldn't just be giving aid to people living in poverty, we should be giving effective aid--aid that uses innovation and smart alliances to build self-reliance and long-term development.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I welcome your comments. Look for more related posts as I continue my book research.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-568255460322544528?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/568255460322544528/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=568255460322544528' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/568255460322544528'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/568255460322544528'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2011/10/smart-aid-to-somali-refugees.html' title='Smart Aid to Somali Refugees'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-B-XZqZCyJfo/TquBBKbUN8I/AAAAAAAAAC4/cO-saeA_tjA/s72-c/somali_refugees.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-7783434986686745300</id><published>2011-10-24T14:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-10-24T14:08:35.796-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Universalism'/><title type='text'>How Big is Your Spiritual Umbrella?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I'm a member of the &lt;a href="http://www.christianuniversalist.org/"&gt;Christian Universalist Association&lt;/a&gt; (CUA) and just read their latest newsletter. In it, Donne Hayden reported on the board's discussion on how large the CUA umbrella should be. I am really encouraged by some of their conclusions. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Answer: As big as it can be to cover any person who claims to be Christian and a Universalist. In other words, any "conservative" or "liberal" believer who fits the above would be included. This is a wise decision on their part because it is diametrically opposed to what evangelical and fundamentalist churches love to do: Draw boxes around doctrines and dogma and declare who is a true Christian and who is not. Typically, the doctrines include the many that are problematic when examined closely. Namely, biblical inerrancy and its literal authoritative nature, hell, the return of Christ, the end times, the institutional church, the deity of Christ, the Trinity, and more. Even more moderate evangelical organizations have this tendency, such as World Vision, who recently &lt;a href="http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/search/label/Civil%20Law"&gt;won a lawsuit (and an appeal) brought against them &lt;/a&gt;by former employees they fired because one didn't subscribe to the deity of Christ and the other, the Trinity. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;In my former life as an evangelical, I carried far too small an umbrella and adhered to a far too narrow statement of faith. Hayden cites Jonah as a biblical example of someone who had a small umbrella. But God's rebuke of him reveals God even includes His enemies in his cosmic umbrella, calling Ninevah to repent (not to a particular dogma, but of their violent ways) but even moreso, showing his care and concern for the most misguided people. How much more should we? I welcome your comments. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-7783434986686745300?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/7783434986686745300/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=7783434986686745300' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/7783434986686745300'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/7783434986686745300'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2011/10/how-big-is-your-spiritual-umbrella.html' title='How Big is Your Spiritual Umbrella?'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-7510122597836922878</id><published>2011-10-14T13:11:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-10-15T19:34:53.886-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fundamentalism'/><title type='text'>A New Spiritual Age</title><content type='html'>I recently read Harvey Cox's latest book, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Future-Faith-Harvey-Cox/dp/0061755532/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1318731401&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;The Future of Faith&lt;/a&gt;, and took away a few nuggets of truth that are very encouraging. First, Cox divides the history of Christianity into three periods: the Age of Faith, the Age of Belief, and the Age of the Spirit. The Age of Faith was the two centuries after Christ, when followers embraced the Spirit and emulated Jesus in community. "Faith" is more accurately translated "trust," as this period was not about doctrine but trusting a new way of relating to God through Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Age of Belief--which includes the dark ages--is from the time of Constantine to the 20th century. During this period the focus was on what one believed--either orthodox dogma and creeds or heresies--rather than trust in Christ. Some of this period is still going on within fundamentalism and literalist evangelicals as they dig in their heels around various traditional views. For example, Seattle pastor Mark Driscoll told his flock not to read The Shack because it promoted unbiblical ideas. I'm not sure why he didn't encourage people to read it and decide for themselves. This "Age of Belief" mindset puts more emphasis on what one believes rather than on how one acts in terms of loving others and living like Jesus did.  Notice how a  conservative blog &lt;a href="http://stephenwillcox.wordpress.com/2009/02/15/mark-driscolls-review-on-the-shack/"&gt;portrays and endorses Driscoll&lt;/a&gt; and how many times "heretical" and "false teaching" are mentioned. "Age of Belief" people will find it difficult to admit that The Shack might have some redeeming value, even if they disagree with some of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Age of the Spirit, Cox argues, has begun and will continue to emerge as new paradigms replace fundamentalist and literalist thinking and as the number of non-Western Christians grow. This Age is also a renewal of the initial Age of Faith (Trust), as focus isn't on the details of what one believes, but how one is led by the Spirit of love (Not that what one believes is irrelevant, but it is secondary to love). I have seen this trend, especially in the last ten years, and trust Cox is correct. The Age of the Spirit is here to stay.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-7510122597836922878?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/7510122597836922878/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=7510122597836922878' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/7510122597836922878'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/7510122597836922878'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2011/10/new-spiritual-age.html' title='A New Spiritual Age'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-1992895629971747061</id><published>2011-10-03T12:21:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-10-03T22:07:32.407-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gay Rights'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Homosexuality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><title type='text'>Why the Christian Right Should Support Gay Marriage</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;(Even Though They Believe It's a Sin)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Conservative churches need to do everything they can to reconcile with the LGBT community. I have written about &lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2010/04/support-gay-rights-not-wrongs.html"&gt;the paradigm shift&lt;/a&gt; that needs to take place for this to happen and how it occurred in &lt;a href="http://www.michaelcampbooks.com/"&gt;my evolution from conservative to progressive believer&lt;/a&gt;. Interestingly, until yesterday, I thought the only argument to present to my evangelical friends in favor of a reconciliation, which in my mind should include acceptance of gay marriage, was to show that the traditional Biblical basis for rejecting &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; homosexual behavior is flat-out wrong. This is still a good strategy, because the case is so strong that those "clobber" passages have been mistranslated and misinterpreted and that the NT&lt;em&gt; law of love&lt;/em&gt; prevails in such cases. One can be a practicing homosexual and a Christian.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But wonders never cease. Misty Irons, a young mother, seminary graduate, and conservative Christian, has made &lt;a href="http://www.musingson.com/ccCase.html"&gt;a brilliant case&lt;/a&gt; that conservatives should support civil same-sex marriage, even though they believe it's a sin. How can this be? Irons says it's simply an issue of civil liberties and supporting such liberties is always to the church's advantage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Think about it. Even the Christian Right always argues for religious liberty and concedes that people like Buddhists and New Agers should have a right to practice their religion, even though they would call it an idolatrous practice (I would add they do this in countless ways, e.g. not calling for a legal ban on pre-marital sex even though they call it a sin). The reason is simple. To protect their own religious liberty, the church supports the liberties of others they disagree with. This is the American way, after all. So, why not support the liberty of the LGBT community on the gay marriage issue?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You must read Iron's rationale, which is really quite good. She says the church should allow homosexuals the right of same-sex &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;secular &lt;/span&gt;marriage to affirm their civil liberties, but still have the right to keep the conservative church's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;religious&lt;/span&gt; marriage homosexual free. She doesn't concede that there are progressive churches that would choose to accept homosexual &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;religious&lt;/span&gt; marriage, but then again, her audience here is conservative Christians.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was pleasantly surprised to see her logic and candor. Of course, as to be expected the conservative church is not taking up her recommendation. In fact, her own church forced her and her husband to leave their denomination as a result of her plea. Not surprising. But also take note she is a &lt;a href="http://www.gaychristian.net/conference/speakers.php"&gt;speaker at the Gay Christian Network&lt;/a&gt; conference next January. Way to go, Misty. And thank you for your insight and showing me I have another tool in my arsenal with which to challenge my evangelical friends on this issue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-1992895629971747061?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/1992895629971747061/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=1992895629971747061' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/1992895629971747061'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/1992895629971747061'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2011/10/why-christian-right-should-support-gay.html' title='Why the Christian Right Should Support Gay Marriage'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-300774140487892360</id><published>2011-09-26T21:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-27T07:37:53.427-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gay Rights'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Homosexuality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><title type='text'>The Root of the Anti-Gay Church</title><content type='html'>The source of anti-gay homophobia in the church is the Christian worldview that buys into incoherent biblicisim. It's the view that the Bible is God's Word and &lt;u&gt;the&lt;/u&gt; literal exclusive authority for Christian faith and practice. It claims the Bible is (1), inerrant, (2), self-sufficient, (3), self-evident in its meaning, (4), internally consistent, and (5), universally applicable. These are the root of a host of misguided theologies in mostly conservative churches, not the least of which is the anti-gay rhetoric and "ministries" that attempt, in the name of God, to de-gay GLBT people. &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;But as Christian Smith argues in his new book, &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Bible-Made-Impossible-Biblicism-Evangelical/dp/1587433036/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1317096749&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;The Bible Made Impossible&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, this worldview is indefensible. In light of logic, the Bible's own assertions, and the historical/cultural context of its writings, none of these five claims hold up to scrutiny. Therefore, the many theologies associated with this brand of biblicism (in addition to the attack on gays are the "end times," idolizing the institutional church, and making moralism superior to love) are false.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A more sensible way of looking at the Bible can still uphold much of it as inspired by God and holding a type of authority. However, this alternate way recognizes much of what it asserts was never meant to be universally applied as a set of behavior codes but is culturally or historically conditioned. Moreover, many of its proclamations are misinterpreted or mistranslated due to the misguided assumption that the divine word is always self evident.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the case of religious conservatives, a handful of passages are used to condemn &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; homosexual behavior while ignoring the cultural evidence that biblical writers were addressing unique sexual sins, such as cultic prostitution, pederasty, and exploitation; also ignored is the New Testament powerful theme that all things are lawful as long as no harm is done to one's neighbor and love rules.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I trace my own personal evolution from evangelical narrow biblicist to progressive believer, and particularly my transformation from an anti-gay to a pro-gay position, in my forthcoming book &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.michaelcampbooks.com/progressive-christian/books.htm"&gt;Confessions of a Bible Thumper&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. As I was sincere and well meaning in my views, so are today's religious conservatives. The path to understanding is wrought with psychological and theological struggles. Activists should challenge prevailing narrow views on homosexuality, but should also be aware how entrenched this worldview root is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I welcome your thoughts and comments!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-300774140487892360?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/300774140487892360/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=300774140487892360' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/300774140487892360'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/300774140487892360'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2011/09/root-of-anti-gay-church.html' title='The Root of the Anti-Gay Church'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-7544297100851255499</id><published>2011-09-19T20:37:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-20T15:21:49.796-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Politics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Culture'/><title type='text'>Why Rick Perry Makes Me Nervous</title><content type='html'>I have to admit, Rick Perry's rise to prominence among Republican presidential candidates, shortly after he convened a prayer meeting (&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/06/opinion/how-to-respond-to-rick-perrys-response.html?_r=2"&gt;The Response&lt;/a&gt; patterned after The Call), makes me nervous. Why? It has to do with his close alliance with the theology, ministries, and at least one former pastor of mine on the evangelical Christian Right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the surface, Perry has remarkably diverse political positions. While maintaining conservative credentials, he has called for a quick exit out of Afghanistan and Iraq, college financial assistance for children of illegal immigrants in Texas, and once used an executive order to create a mandatory HPV vaccine program for schoolgirls to fight cervical cancer. These are some of the reasons he has been attacked by other Republicans at the debates. He's doesn't fit neatly into their box. That part is good.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the other hand, in other ways, he does fit the conservative bill. He scoffs at global warming, claims there are holes in the theory of evolution, and has a disdain and distrust of big government. Yet, these aren't the reasons I'm nervous. You see, I'd agree there are problems with &lt;a href="http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/search/label/Evolution"&gt;orthodox Darwinian evolution&lt;/a&gt; (but support other unorthodox evolutionary theories) and have no problem with the "concept" of limited government, albeit I disagree with most conservatives on where to draw the line.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No, the reason I'm nervous is Perry (and Michelle Bachman for that matter) still buys into the popular evangelical fairy-tale notion that America is a Christian nation the roots of which we must return, or else. His kick-off prayer meeting was part political ploy and part rallying cry for true believers. By quoting strategically selected scripture (Joel 2), he told the audience, and the whole conservative evangelical movement, that he's one of them--one who, in the context of the OT prophet Joel, is calling our nation to repent of our sins (think gay and abortion rights) and return to the Lord. At Falwell's Liberty University, Perry said "America is going to be guided by some set of values. The question is gonna be, whose values? It's those Christian values that this country was based upon." Never mind that's not exactly true. We're equally based on Enlightenment values and some of the "Christian" values of our early history were detestable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what makes me really nervous is how Perry and the religious right and my old pastor Lou Engle (of The Call) define "Christian values." It's an extremely narrow, black-and-white view of Christ that I am all too familiar with, having spent almost 25 years in this movement. It's a view that ignores huge swaths of Christ's teachings. One that promotes OT law over NT grace (think Perry's pride at the 200+ executions in his state), militaristic solutions over non-violent alternatives, &lt;a href="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/lou-engle-supports-criminalization-homosexuality"&gt;criminalization of homosexuality&lt;/a&gt;, protection of the rich from &lt;a href="http://www.newser.com/story/125842/warren-buffett-raise-my-taxes-please.html"&gt;equitable tax increases&lt;/a&gt;, literalistic biblicism, and control (&lt;span style="FONT-STYLE: italic"&gt;influence&lt;/span&gt; at the very least and &lt;span style="FONT-STYLE: italic"&gt;dominion&lt;/span&gt; at worst) of government and major sectors of society. Some very devoted Christians would say these aren't Jesus' values at all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These evangelical pseudo "Christian" values consider anyone outside the conservative fold as part and parcel of the enemy in a world of "spiritual warfare." It can't recognize that God works outside the institutional evangelical church/parachurch, reveals himself to people of other religions, and our current President, although obviously not perfect, is a devoted follower of Christ and might actually have some Christian values of his own!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What makes me nervous is not the Christian values, but the inconsistency in claiming them--the narrow mindset--and how it negatively affects public policy.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-7544297100851255499?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/7544297100851255499/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=7544297100851255499' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/7544297100851255499'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/7544297100851255499'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2011/09/why-rick-perry-makes-me-nervous.html' title='Why Rick Perry Makes Me Nervous'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-3137529395016648570</id><published>2011-09-13T17:34:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-13T18:50:41.462-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jesus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Politics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Culture'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>Does Jesus Need Saving?</title><content type='html'>Yes, according to the Saving Jesus Redux DVD I recently purchased. "Kidnapped by the Christian Right, discarded by the Secular Left, Jesus needs saving." I'm enjoying the host of theologians that explore a more credible Christ for the 21st century and yes, I give a hearty "amen" to the program's premise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In my experience within evangelicalism, the Christ of the scriptures (and of the original first century gatherings of followers), although honored as Lord in evangelical churches, was routinely used to espouse political, social, and "moral" positions that today I find are foreign to the gospel message. Pushing church hierarchy and programs, mandatory doctrines, acceptable behavior codes, and devotional rituals come to mind. As does condemning &lt;a href="http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/search/label/Homosexuality"&gt;gays and lesbians&lt;/a&gt;, worshiping the Bible, preaching exclusive salvation, and twisting scripture to create a "&lt;a href="http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/search/label/Eschatology"&gt;last days&lt;/a&gt;" mentality that assumes we are on the cusp of the "end" with the world going to pot. These attitudes provoked an "us vs. them" approach to life and society that can be seen in religious right personalities today, including some of the leading Republican candidates (think Rick Perry and Michelle Bachman) and their supporters who come across like only their brand of Jesus is authentic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the other end, are secularists who mock all faith and ignore Jesus as an irrelevant religious teacher of a bygone era who has no claim on modern society. It appears they haven't twisted scripture, but have discounted Christ's teaching based on those who have.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This set of discussions on DVD is more evidence for the new trend that Harvey Cox explains as the Age of the Spirit--a movement where traditional Christianity is giving way to more grassroots and organic communities of faith (rather than institutions) who take Jesus seriously, respect biblical scholarship and historical evidence, and focus on the &lt;a href="http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/search/label/Universalism"&gt;inclusive message of the good news&lt;/a&gt;, particularly that love, not religious law, is paramount. Yes, Jesus, and his teaching, need saving. Listen to &lt;a href="http://www.livingthequestions.com/xcart/home.php?cat=471"&gt;Saving Jesus&lt;/a&gt; and see how you can help with the rescue.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-3137529395016648570?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/3137529395016648570/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=3137529395016648570' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/3137529395016648570'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/3137529395016648570'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2011/09/does-jesus-need-saving.html' title='Does Jesus Need Saving?'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-4928343415727311595</id><published>2011-09-05T19:37:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-13T18:51:28.044-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Culture'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>Church on Tap!</title><content type='html'>I meet with a group of progressive Christians at a restaurant or pub from time to time to discuss spirituality. You never know who is going to show up! Last week, eight people came, representing a continuum from conservative evangelical to avowed atheist and everything in between. My friend Jonathan, said, "I live for this kind of discussion!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These type of meet ups are critical to build bridges in the religious community. No one is trying to convert the other and everyone's perspective is respected, although also occasionally challenged in good faith. These meetings are foreign to my days in my evangelical enclave, where people were content to build an alternate moralistic universe (where everyone basically believes the same way) to protect themselves from the "world."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So during the conversation, a guy name James announces, "I go to a Foursquare church and wanted to get outside the walls, so started &lt;a href="http://www.meetup.com/Church-on-Tap/"&gt;Church on Tap&lt;/a&gt;. Our group gets together at a different microbrewery every month to encourage each other and share our love for good brew."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you know about my new book, you'll know both of these meetings sound familiar. At the end of each chapter, which deals with a hot-topic issue, friends and I discuss it over a couple of microbrews. I believe these types of organic groups are key to the future of Christianity and a way of building bridges with others of various spiritual stripes. Meeting at microbreweries is just one of a myriad of ideas. The important thing is to get outside (and in some cases, out from under) the church structure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our &lt;a href="http://www.meetup.com/North-Seattle-Progressive-Christians-Meetup-Group/"&gt;progressive Seattle Meetup&lt;/a&gt; and Church on Tap are good examples of an emerging trend. I'll drink to that! Will you join me?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-4928343415727311595?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.meetup.com/Church-on-Tap/' title='Church on Tap!'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/4928343415727311595/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=4928343415727311595' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/4928343415727311595'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/4928343415727311595'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2011/09/church-on-tap.html' title='Church on Tap!'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-3103704907754397769</id><published>2011-07-27T12:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-27T13:21:21.051-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='International Issues'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Culture'/><title type='text'>Water, Hope, and Life out of Death: The Story of Rachel Beckwith</title><content type='html'>How could a tragic car accident that killed a nine-year-old girl this month have a silver lining? Because of &lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43898825/ns/us_news-giving/t/-year-old-girls-clean-water-wish-takes-after-her-death/"&gt;Rachel Beckwith&lt;/a&gt;'s one act of compassion before she died. Just a month earlier, she had requested people not buy her birthday gifts but rather make a donation to an international agency called &lt;a href="http://www.charitywater.org/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Charity: Water&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;--an organization that brings clean and safe drinking water to the poor in developing nations. Her goal was to raise $300. When the community heard of her death and commitment to help, an outpouring of support flooded &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Charity: Water&lt;/span&gt;. By this week, $200,000 has been raised. It's likely her $300 wish will turn into $300,000! Maybe more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Charity: Water&lt;/span&gt; is not just pouring money into projects with little long-term impact. They are committed to &lt;a href="http://www.charitywater.org/about/faqs.php#20"&gt;sustainability&lt;/a&gt;, which means building community ownership, partnering with local organizations, and designing an ongoing maintenance program for their projects, which include wells, protected springs, and rainwater catchments. May more of us &lt;a href="http://www.mycharitywater.org/p/campaign?campaign_id=16396"&gt;help make Rachel's dream come true&lt;/a&gt; and honor her short-but-meaningful life by participating in this effort to empower the poor.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-3103704907754397769?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43898825/ns/us_news-giving/t/-year-old-girls-clean-water-wish-takes-after-her-death/' title='Water, Hope, and Life out of Death: The Story of Rachel Beckwith'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/3103704907754397769/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=3103704907754397769' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/3103704907754397769'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/3103704907754397769'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2011/07/water-hope-and-life-out-of-death-story.html' title='Water, Hope, and Life out of Death: The Story of Rachel Beckwith'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-982514226883007573</id><published>2011-06-25T17:31:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-25T17:50:45.300-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Universalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hell'/><title type='text'>Review of Julie Ferwerda's Raising Hell</title><content type='html'>Here's &lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A3I793PWFPK9GD?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;ref_=cm_cr_pr_pdp"&gt;my review&lt;/a&gt; of Julie Ferwerda's new book on Amazon.com:&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Finally, permission to think for ourselves!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For too long most Christians have been told the Bible they hold in their hands is inerrant, miraculously preserved, and its pronouncements should be accepted without question. Any doubts about the Bible's major teachings are interpreted as "liberal" bias or "heresy." Julie Ferwerda, in &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Raising-Hell-Christianitys-Controversial-ebook/dp/B0056U9JHE/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Raising Hell: Christianity's Most Controversial Doctrine Put Under Fire&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, reveals why these assumptions are grossly misplaced.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the issue of hell, Julie brilliantly weaves the case for believers to think for themselves and honestly investigate this controversial doctrine. One that, for many of us, clashes with our sense of reason and experience with God's love. If you have a high view of scripture and you've ever openly (or secretly) questioned the concept of eternal conscious punishment, this book is a must read. It traces Julie's sincere quest for biblically affirming answers about the afterlife based on objective scholarship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our modern Bible is the product of centuries of institutional and theological interpretations that may or may not be accurate. What Julie does is show us how important it is to understand what a Bible passage originally meant. If we don't, we are not honoring the Bible but dishonoring it. Julie's conclusion is the modern church, through mistranslations and misinterpretations, reads hell into the Bible, rather than derives it from the original meaning. When we read the Bible with a "Hebrew lens," we discover the modern concept of hell is foreign, she says. As she clearly argues, she's not the first person to come to this conclusion. The notion of everlasting torment was not a widely held view for centuries--including among early Church fathers--until the Western (Catholic) Church took root.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Having taken &lt;a href="http://www.michaelcampbooks.com/"&gt;the same journey&lt;/a&gt; as Julie's, I especially appreciate this courageously written book that helps readers think critically while maintaining their faith. Far from advocating an easy believism, Julie's Christian Universalist take on the hereafter doesn't belittle God's judgment, but puts it into the context of a consistently loving God. Without an air of superiority (that some Universalists may have), Julie uses both heart and head to make her case. You will enjoy her personal vignettes and appreciate her in-depth biblical research (Part 4 alone, the Resources for sound Bible study are worth the price of admission). Whether you welcome such a message or find it unsettling, Julie will give you a smooth ride and let you come to your own conclusion.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-982514226883007573?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.amazon.com/Raising-Hell-Christianitys-Controversial-ebook/product-reviews/B0056U9JHE/ref=cm_cr_dp_all_summary?ie=UTF8&amp;showViewpoints=1&amp;sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending' title='Review of Julie Ferwerda&apos;s Raising Hell'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/982514226883007573/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=982514226883007573' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/982514226883007573'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/982514226883007573'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2011/06/review-of-julie-ferwerdas-raising-hell.html' title='Review of Julie Ferwerda&apos;s Raising Hell'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-5740128739455544583</id><published>2011-04-23T13:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-25T17:52:18.399-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Universalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hell'/><title type='text'>Rob Bell's Hell</title><content type='html'>Looks like Rob Bell has stolen my thunder with his new book &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Love Wins&lt;/span&gt; and now front page coverage on Time Magazine. Well, good for him! Having only read the Time article and not the book (yet), I don't have full knowledge of his arguments, only that he is making the case for an alternative to the traditional understanding of hell--an evangelical-style Universalism. And a view I wholeheartedly endorse and defend in a chapter in my book.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What's fascinating to me is the reaction of the evangelical world. 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Are you kidding? Rob Bell is irresponsible because he knew how people would react to his book? Was Jesus irresponsible because he knew how the Religious Right of his day would react to his message?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then there's McDonald's even more ridiculous assertion: &lt;span style="line-height: 115%;font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:11;"  &gt;“&lt;/span&gt;Rob Bell was also irresponsible in publishing this book this way because of what he did to everyday, ordinary pastors like me... Rob Bell has forced the rest of us to speak up about our own beliefs concerning the Final Judgment.&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:11;"  &gt;”&lt;/span&gt; You can't be serious! Then McDonald goes on to admit he has rarely if ever taught on the subject for 15 years because he'd rather talk about the good news not the bad news.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now let me get this straight. Rob Bell should have shut his trap about this subject because he's making us all look bad that we purposely avoid a large swath of scripture because we don't have the courage to address it head on. I'm sorry, David McDonald, and anyone who agrees with you, but Rob Bell is free. Free to preach on the whole biblical narrative and ask the tough questions to ascertain the truth. And you're free to avoid those questions. Just don't blame Rob Bell when you do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I look forward to reading this book. From Amazon reviews, in my mind, it appears the book's only weakness is that it doesn't exegete the eternal punishment passages very well, nor back up the claim of Universalism in the early church with solid evidence. Perhaps an oversight by Bell, but hardly a reason to reject his case with the growing number of other books on the subject, e.g.&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; The Inescapable Love of God&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Evangelical Universalist&lt;/span&gt;, and even a more conservative variety in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Hope Beyond Hell &lt;/span&gt;(and&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.michaelcampbooks.com/progressive-christian/books.htm"&gt;Universal Life&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;chapter in my forthcoming book). Really, we ought to thank Rob Bell for being responsible and courageous to address difficult questions and be willing to rethink this problematic doctrine in light of the biblical and historical evidence.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-5740128739455544583?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/5740128739455544583/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=5740128739455544583' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/5740128739455544583'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/5740128739455544583'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2011/04/rob-bell.html' title='Rob Bell&apos;s Hell'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-9011556848581161637</id><published>2011-03-03T11:41:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-03-03T11:44:26.800-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jesus'/><title type='text'>What Would Jesus Brew?</title><content type='html'>WWJB? It’s a legitimate question. Jesus drank with the best of them.  He made choice wine from water at a wedding in Cana—and lots of it. About 150 gallons. In case you’re wondering, that’s about 800 bottles. And it was good stuff.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    “You saved the best for last,” said the master of the banquet to the bridegroom.  All proof that Jesus approved of earthly celebrations and drinking, despite the fact that some fundamentalists make the ludicrous claim that his wine wasn’t fermented. It was. The Greek word used is oinos, which means fermented drink derived from grapes. In fact, in the Torah, God told the Israelites to use a portion of their tithe to buy food, wine, and strong drink—whatever their appetites craved—for an annual party.  Like the Cana wedding, it was a time of rejoicing, which the Psalmist echoed when he said “He makes wine that gladdens the heart of man [and woman].”  The scriptures tell us the abundance of wine is a divine blessing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    Don’t get nervous, teetotalers. God does not approve of alcohol abuse. Paul told his hearers “don’t get drunk with wine”  in the Greek continuous tense; meaning don’t be in the habit of overindulging.  The implication is, it’s fine to tie one on with restraint once in a while, as the Israelites were encouraged to do once a year; just beware of the dangers of drunkenness, in other words, alcoholism. It will ruin your life. Today, unlike biblical times, it is complicated by the deadly combination of drinking and driving.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    But what of societies where moderate imbibing is practiced responsibly? If Jesus was invited to a wedding in Belgium or Germany or the home of an American microbrewer, and his mother Mary was worried because they ran out of beer, what would he brew? You can bet your bottom dollar it wouldn’t be Bud Lite.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.michaelcampbooks.com/progressive-christian/articles.htm"&gt;Read more...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-9011556848581161637?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/9011556848581161637/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=9011556848581161637' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/9011556848581161637'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/9011556848581161637'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2011/03/what-would-jesus-brew.html' title='What Would Jesus Brew?'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-8241836051160409659</id><published>2011-03-03T11:11:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-03-03T11:49:00.754-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Writing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='book news'/><title type='text'>New Website Launched: michaelcampbooks.com</title><content type='html'>It's been awhile since my last post but I do have a good excuse. I've been developing, tweeking, and launching my new website at &lt;a href="http://www.michaelcampbooks.com/"&gt;michaelcampbooks.com&lt;/a&gt;! Please check it out and give me your feed back. There's a summary of the two books I'm working on and an &lt;a href="http://www.michaelcampbooks.com/progressive-christian/articles.htm"&gt;articles page&lt;/a&gt;, which includes screeds on my crazy theological ideas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My book, &lt;a href="http://www.michaelcampbooks.com/progressive-christian/books.htm"&gt;Confessions of a Bible Thumper: From Evangelical to Heretic on My Quest for a Reasoned Faith&lt;/a&gt; recently got back from my editor, Jason Black. Jason gave me incredibly valuable feedback and advice that I trust will take the book to the next level. He also really liked it--despite the fact that he's an atheist--and told me "it's a darn good book."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The manuscript will have Jason's input incorporated later this spring. Then it will be time to market it (websites, interviews, speaking), search again for an agent, and get it in line for publication. Stay tuned for more news here and more material/articles on my website.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-8241836051160409659?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.michaelcampbooks.com' title='New Website Launched: michaelcampbooks.com'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/8241836051160409659/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=8241836051160409659' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/8241836051160409659'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/8241836051160409659'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2011/03/new-website-launched.html' title='New Website Launched: michaelcampbooks.com'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-6364599437452383045</id><published>2010-12-19T09:32:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-19T10:43:06.899-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Islam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fundamentalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Women'/><title type='text'>Everything in Moderation</title><content type='html'>I often remind my children that it's best to observe this rule of thumb--everything in moderation--when it comes to personal behavior. Without it people fall into the trap of alcoholism, drug addiction, and obsessive gambling, etc. The same rule of thumb can be said about religion and faith. Without moderation, people succumb to extremism, whether Islamic radicalism or Christian fundamentalism/evangelicalism. The cure for extremism is for moderate and progressive voices to speak sense, expose lies, and stand up for the victims of extremist ideology. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I introduced the abuses of evangelical extremism in the Christian Right in my nine lessons and expound on it in my forthcoming book, &lt;a href="http://www.michaelcampbooks.com/progressive-christian/books.htm"&gt;Confessions of a Bible Thumper&lt;/a&gt;. Here I want to share two examples of how moderation fights extremist Islam. First is Somali women's rights activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a former Muslim turned atheist who exposes the victimization of women in radical Islam in her book &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Infidel-Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali/dp/0743289692/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1292783765&amp;sr=8-1-spell"&gt;Infidel&lt;/a&gt;. This is a courageous yet disturbing account of her journey out of fundamentalist faith and into rational and compassionate humanism. Although I think she ignores progressive ideas on faith when she rejects all religious thought and becomes an atheist, I applaud her heroic stand against the radical elements of Islam and her defense of women's rights. Her atheism seems to be a natural reaction to her experience and not the fundamentalist variety. A kind of moderate atheism. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another more promising example is Dr. Hawa Abdi, another Somali woman (I've always admired and loved the strong-willed  beautiful women of the horn of Africa) who stood up to the Party of Islam in Somalia in defense of her own moderate humanitarian efforts to fight suffering and injustice (which includes, like Hirsi Ali, the condemnation of female genital mutilation). Read the details in Nicholas Kristoff's article, &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/16/opinion/16kristof.html?_r=1&amp;scp=3&amp;sq=kristof&amp;st=cse"&gt;Heroic, Female, and Muslim&lt;/a&gt;. The Party of Islam's militia tried to take control of her hospital but she heroically faced them down. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a moderate Muslim, Hawa Abdi has much more influence to stop extremism because she remains a Muslim and attracts other moderate Muslims to support her efforts. (I make this point on &lt;a href="http://accidentaltheologist.com/2010/12/16/facing-down-extremism/#respond"&gt;Lesley Hazelton's&lt;/a&gt; excellent post on the subject). Whereas Hirsi Ali's atheism hinders Muslims from hearing her message, Dr. Abdi's Muslim faith helped rally other moderate Somali Muslims to protest the Party of Islam's actions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's encouraging to see moderate and progressive thinkers exposing the lies and abuses of extremists wherever those extremists are. In Somalia, Hawa Abdi's courage to fight Muslim extremists, and the outrage voiced by the world's Somalis, is an encouraging glimmer of hope that moderate ideals can win out.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-6364599437452383045?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/6364599437452383045/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=6364599437452383045' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/6364599437452383045'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/6364599437452383045'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2010/12/everything-in-moderation.html' title='Everything in Moderation'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-6621611866770328397</id><published>2010-11-07T11:04:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-11-07T12:26:25.712-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fundamentalism'/><title type='text'>John Shelby Spong and the Hereafter</title><content type='html'>When I first started this blog five years ago, people told me "your ideas remind me of Bishop Spong," the liberal theologian and former Bishop of the Episcopal church. Having never read him (as one just starting to emerge out of the sheltered enclave of the evangelical subculture), I checked out his books. In a way, these people were right. Spong was coming to similar conclusions as I, saying we should rescue the Bible from fundamentalists and that the popular literal and narrow interpretation of scripture is nonsensical (e.g. on gays, women, inerrancy, etc). While still embracing Jesus as one who revealed God and encouraging us to follow his example of selfless love. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet upon closer examination, I decided Spong goes too far. He seemed to doubt almost everything, concluding there was no supernatural elements in the Bible including the resurrection. Those positions seemed to me to be just as "fundamentalist" as the literalists, by deciding on these issues, not on the merit of objective biblical scholarship itself, but from a preconceived position. Like other progressives like Garry Wills would, I still feel that way. However, after seeing Spong speak last month in Seattle (touting his new book, Eternal Life: A New Vision), I have a new appreciation for his spiritual journey. I found him to be delightful, sensible, and full of compassion. And, one who believes in life after death, albeit without telling us exactly what it will be like. (I mean, who can?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's exactly what the new movie Hereafter does as well. Although sometimes excruciatingly slow, the movie gives us a glimpse of a place beyond death where light and peace await, without labeling a source of the light as God or Christ.  Hereafter seems to base its theory of beyond on the many near death experiences that have been documented. Spong's book doesn't focus on those but is based on Spong's own personal research and vision for experiencing eternity starting now in a way that transcends religion. To me, the movie and Spong's book is at the very least a wonderful sign of spiritual yearning and sense most people seem to intrinsically possess, which is a stark contradiction to the popular view of materialism. Just some of my observations.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-6621611866770328397?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/6621611866770328397/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=6621611866770328397' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/6621611866770328397'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/6621611866770328397'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2010/11/john-shelby-spong-and-hereafter.html' title='John Shelby Spong and the Hereafter'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-6269961460399705284</id><published>2010-09-04T12:56:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-09-04T18:07:11.560-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Civil Law'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Politics'/><title type='text'>Firing Based on Religion: A Right or Wrongheaded?</title><content type='html'>The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that World Vision can hire and fire employees based on their religious beliefs. Three former employees, terminated for their beliefs, had filed a lawsuit alleging discrimination. Having worked for World Vision for two years, here's my take.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;World Vision has a right to maintain their organization according to their purpose, which is to render the poor humanitarian aid motivated by Christian faith. Other Christian and non-Christian organizations have that same right. But is the narrow way they define Christian faith accurate?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;World Vision argues if they don't screen their employees for their Christian commitment, the organization would not be pursuing their mandate, to help the poor (regardless of the faith of the poor) &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;as followers of Christ&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's a couple considerations. World Vision and other Christian organizations like them only follow this policy within the U.S. and other predominantly Christian countries. In Muslim countries, for example, they are forced to hire local non-Christians  since there are too few believers. Why doesn't this prevent them from pursuing their mandate?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Other Christian organizations, like Habitat for Humanity and Mercy Corps (this organization's founders were evangelicals), maintain their Christian identity without requiring their employees to be believers. If these organizations can do it, why not World Vision? Is there something wrong with an organization that purports to give aid indiscriminately but has discriminatory hiring policies?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then there's the terminated employees themselves, two of which worked for World Vision for ten years. Turns out they are still Christians, they just don't see eye to eye on the deity of Christ and the Trinity. World Vision's statement of faith, which new hires have to sign on, is based on conservative interpretations of the Bible (including the infallibility of the Bible). Two questions: (1) Why don't they allow people to differ if they still consider themselves Christians? and (2) Shouldn't employees have the same freedom of religion as all U.S. citizens, the freedom to change their religious values without fear of losing their job? (as long as those values don't undermine the core purpose of the organization--which in this case, they surely do not. I don't see how a worker's stand on the Trinity or the deity of Christ will harm relief and development efforts).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Conclusion: World Vision has a right to run their religious-motivated organization as they see fit, but I believe their hiring and firing policy is wrongheaded. When their daily operations of humanitarian aid does not require each worker to have an orthodox faith (as they define it), why not let people of all faiths and no faith take part? As Jesus said, "whoever is not against us, is for us." If the employees weren't undermining the mission of World Vision, allow them their freedom of belief. World Vision needs to rethink their policy.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-6269961460399705284?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.christianpost.com/article/20100824/world-vision-can-continue-faith-based-hiring-court-rules/index.html' title='Firing Based on Religion: A Right or Wrongheaded?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/6269961460399705284/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=6269961460399705284' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/6269961460399705284'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/6269961460399705284'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2010/09/firing-based-on-religion-right-or.html' title='Firing Based on Religion: A Right or Wrongheaded?'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-7097519855283224639</id><published>2010-06-27T18:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-27T18:49:27.928-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Certain and Uncertain</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;I Survived the Christian Right&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ten Lessons I Learned on My Journey Home&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Conclusion: Certain and Uncertain &lt;/span&gt;- As much as I defend these nine lessons, I’m not insisting I’ve suddenly arrived at absolute certain truth. What I am saying is that we must be willing to go where the evidence leads even if it goes against out long-standing tradition or personal bias. Although I believe Christians can be certain of many things (the historical Jesus, his practical and spiritual wisdom, a transcendent meaning and power in the world—God—and a new way of relating to God found in the good news of Jesus), we should hold many views lightly because most of us don’t have a clue what really was happening culturally when Jesus spoke about his coming again, or the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;aionios&lt;/span&gt; punishment of the age, or when Paul spoke of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;porneia&lt;/span&gt; or &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;arsenokoitai&lt;/span&gt;, or how the Bible was compiled, copied, and made into a canon of scripture by an editorial committee in the fourth century. There will always be an element of mystery and uncertainty.[69]  If we are to come to sound conclusions about the Christian faith, we must ensure we humbly attempt to follow a reasoned course and not swallow whole what others before us have said—be they conservative or liberal—without careful evaluation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;69 Schaeffer, Frank, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Patience with God: Faith for People Who Don’t Like Religion (or Atheism)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-7097519855283224639?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/7097519855283224639/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=7097519855283224639' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/7097519855283224639'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/7097519855283224639'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2010/06/certain-and-uncertain.html' title='Certain and Uncertain'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-9064733290974073562</id><published>2010-06-20T13:59:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-20T14:21:50.967-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Salvation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Universalism'/><title type='text'>Embrace Universal Life</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;I Survived the Christian Right&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ten Lessons I Learned on My Journey Home&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Lesson 9: Embrace Universal Life&lt;/span&gt; – Before I went to Malawi and early on in my evangelical walk in 1982 I got one major thing right. Faith in Jesus includes emulating his concern for the poor. I packed my bags, joined an evangelical relief agency and headed off to the “ends of the earth,” in this case Somalia, to aid refugees devastated by war.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also wanted to share my faith with Muslims. My evangelical theology taught me they were lost without someone like me converting them. It didn’t take long to see the logical conclusion of that doctrine. The overwhelming majority of Muslims, steeped in their own fundamentalist religion since birth, were not coming to Jesus. They were toast. Burnt toast and destined for an eternity in hell according to evangelical theology. Problem was, I didn’t buy it. Since I experienced God’s love personally and felt divine love for my Muslim friends, I surmised God’s character demands He not destine people to eternal separation and torment. I adopted, and kept secret for the most part, the very minority position of inclusivism—that salvation is possible outside of Christendom. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fast forward to my seventeenth (I lost count) crisis of faith in 2007. Having changed my view on scriptural inerrancy and authority, the church, tithing, the return of Jesus, sexuality, and gay rights, why not go for broke? I had become an open-minded seeker desperately trying to prevent my brains from leaking out. After reading three thoughtful, progressive evangelical authors[61]  and another former Pentecostal minister,[62]  a long-time puzzle was solved. Through a combination of Bible abuse and upholding man-made tradition, the evangelical church had squelched a view of salvation that had been espoused by several church fathers including Origen and Gregory of Nyssa.[63] It was universal reconciliation—that all would eventually be reconciled to God, thus more in line with God’s character of unconditional love. “Even while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”[64]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Turns out that pesky word “eternal” used in conjunction with “punishment” and supposedly talking about hell doesn’t really mean forever. A better translation is “punishment of the age to come,” for the Greek word aionios is more accurately rendered “pertaining to an age.”[65]  Also, the Greek word for “punishment” always refers to the remedial variety.[66]  So, universal reconciliation doesn’t mean God doesn’t punish evil, just that it’s temporary and always corrective and not for retribution. I concluded that Paul was right all along: “As in Adam, all will die, in Christ, all will be made alive.”[67] &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you’re going to believe, believe in the really good news.[68]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;61 Talbot, Thomas, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Inescapable Love of God&lt;/span&gt;, MacDonald, Gregory, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Evangelical Universalist&lt;/span&gt;, and Keith DeRose, http://pantheon.yale.edu/%7Ekd47/univ.htm&lt;br /&gt;62 Pearson, Carlton, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Gospel of Inclusion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;63 MacDonald, Gregory, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Evangelical Universalist&lt;/span&gt;, page 173&lt;br /&gt;  Romans 5:8&lt;br /&gt;64 MacDonald, George, Op. cit. page 147&lt;br /&gt;65 Talbot, Thomas, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Inescapable Love of God&lt;/span&gt;, page 91.&lt;br /&gt;66 I Corinthians 15:22&lt;br /&gt;67 Luke 2:10 – “I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all people.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-9064733290974073562?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/9064733290974073562/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=9064733290974073562' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/9064733290974073562'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/9064733290974073562'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2010/06/embrace-universal-life.html' title='Embrace Universal Life'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-6741140604629354286</id><published>2010-05-09T11:16:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-09T11:38:18.362-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Intelligent Design'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Creationism'/><title type='text'>Science vs Religion - Go Where the Evidence Leads</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;I Survived the Christian Right&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ten Lessons I Learned on my Journey Home&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lesson 8: Science vs. Religion - Go Where the Evidence Leads &lt;/span&gt;– &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Us vs. them&lt;/span&gt; attitudes are in the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;science vs. religion&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;creation vs. evolution&lt;/span&gt; debates. Typically, the people debating are the extremists, who only see things in black and white. There can be no mixing of their cherished positions. Fundamentalist young-earth creationists who believe in a 10,000 year-old earth based on a literal interpretation of the Bible are pitted against fundamentalist evolutionists, like the New Atheists (Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, and Sam Harris as opposed to reasonable atheists like Michael Ruse), who mock all theists for believing in the myth of God and the fairytale of religion. Yet 67 percent of Americans say it is possible to believe in both God and evolution. [48] The media often reinforces these polarities by distorting any moderate views. For example, they rarely differentiate non-literalist old-earth creationists (who include reputable scientists and technically, theistic evolutionists who believe God created the first life forms) and lump them together with the antiquated ideas of the Dark Ages. Given these realities, here are the lessons I learned:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Evolution is not the enemy.&lt;/span&gt; First, it’s possible to reconcile evolution with a biblical worldview. Francis Collins does it persuasively.[49]  Don’t let staunch atheists who have an axe to grind tell you evolution proves there is no God. They delude themselves.[50]  Nor should you allow staunch creationists to argue evolution is incompatible with the Bible. They hold to a rigid literalism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Evolution is not immune to criticism. &lt;/span&gt;Evolution is usually portrayed as one specific unified theory held by all reputable scientists. There are in fact several competing theories and many ways to look at the scientific data. Stephen J. Gould and Niles Eldridge proposed the theory of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;punctuated equilibrium&lt;/span&gt; that critiqued the Darwinian view of continuous gradual evolution. Gould said the absence of fossil evidence for intermediary stages between major transitions of biological design was a nagging problem for gradualistic evolution.[51]  Eldredge said the fossil record screams loudly that what Darwin theorized—slow, steady, evolution—is not the case.[52]  Molecular Biologist Michael Denton critiqued orthodox Darwinism in his landmark book[53]  and subsequently made the case for a form of guided evolution.[54]  Biologist Dean Kenyon, who pioneered evolutionary self-organizational theory, later repudiated it and embraced a design hypothesis.[55]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Intelligent design is neither the enemy nor immune to criticism. &lt;/span&gt;Intelligent Design (ID) theory is commonly represented as a fundamentalist wolf in sheep’s clothing. The facts don’t warrant this. ID theory is misused by the Christian Right to bolster their exclusivism[56]  and therefore deemed guilty by association. It should be examined critically, but remarkably diverse intellectuals support the idea. These include agnostic mathematician and Darwinism-critic David Berlinski[57]  and the former most renowned atheist in the world, Antony Flew, who announced to a shocked world that intelligent design must have been involved in the origin of the coded chemistry in DNA.[58]  Moreover, ID is not incompatible with evolution. Tenured professor of microbiology Michael Behe, a leading ID proponent, holds to the evolutionary tenet of common descent.[59]  Finally, critics who claim ID is not a real scientific theory probably have not carefully evaluated the case.[60]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Question the rhetoric of the extremists and look carefully at the evidence for both theistic evolution and intelligent design. Go where the evidence leads.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;48 CBS News poll, October 23, 2005&lt;br /&gt;49 Collins, Francis, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;50 Berlinski, David, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Devil’s Delusion: Atheism and its Scientific Pretensions &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;51 Gould, Stephen J., &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Is a New and General Theory of Evolution Emerging?&lt;/span&gt; Paleobiology, vol 6 (1), p. 119-130 (1980)&lt;br /&gt;52 Eldredge, Niles, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Confessions of a Darwinist,&lt;/span&gt; The Virginia Quarterly Review, Spring 2006&lt;br /&gt;53 Denton, Michael, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Evolution: A Theory in Crisis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;54 Denton, Michael, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Nature’s Destiny: How the Laws of Biology Reveal Purpose in the Universe&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;55 I heard Kenyon speak at a Discovery Institute event in Seattle, WA in the summer of 2007&lt;br /&gt;56 The Christian Right-influenced school board of Dover, PA forced teachers to make a pro intelligent-design statement in classrooms, despite the advice of the Discovery Institute not to do so.&lt;br /&gt;57 Berlinski, David, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Deniable Darwin&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;58 Flew, Antony, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;There is a God: How the World’s Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind&lt;/span&gt;, page 95 and 123&lt;br /&gt;59 Behe, Michael, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Edge of Evolution: The Search for the Limits of Darwinism&lt;/span&gt;, page 182.&lt;br /&gt;60 Meyer, Stephen C., Signature in the Cell: &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;DNA and the Evidence for Intelligent Design&lt;/span&gt;, pages 403-415&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-6741140604629354286?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/6741140604629354286/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=6741140604629354286' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/6741140604629354286'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/6741140604629354286'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2010/05/science-vs-religion-go-where-evidence.html' title='Science vs Religion - Go Where the Evidence Leads'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-2457029844879931803</id><published>2010-04-21T12:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-21T12:18:39.981-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gay Rights'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Homosexuality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sex'/><title type='text'>Support Gay Rights Not Wrongs</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;I Survived the Christian Right&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Ten Lessons I Learned on My Journey Home&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lesson 7: Support Gay Rights Not Wrongs&lt;/span&gt; - Most of my evangelical friends thought I went off the deep end when I changed my view on this issue. I have to admit, for years I had wondered how anyone could defend homosexuality in light of certain passages of the Bible. But that was before 2004, when I did an honest study of those passages and discovered misinterpretations and before I learned that several words in those passages are almost certainly mistranslated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It started when I began hearing stories from Christian gay people on how they had pleaded for God’s help to overcome their “sin” of homosexuality. They were saying it didn’t work. A personal friend told me a similar story. Despite seeking help in “ex-gay” ministries, God wasn’t changing them into heterosexuals nor taking away their sex drives.[40]  I read a Philip Yancey book[41] where he recommended people read Mel White’s story (without endorsing his conclusions).[42] White was a former ghostwriter for evangelical heavy weights and had come out declaring his homosexuality and the futility of trying to change. It was then that I clearly saw there was a pastoral problem with homosexuality. But was there a scriptural problem? Was there evidence evangelicals were misreading the Bible on this issue?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Turns out there is. For instance, one word in the Greek New Testament commonly translated “homosexual,” is the word, arsenokoitai, which is rarely found in ancient literature and whose meaning is uncertain.[43]  It must be a condemned sexual behavior but does not denote homosexuality across the board. To translate it “homosexual” without at least including a footnote about its ambiguity is irresponsible. To understand what the New Testament teaches on homosexuality, one must understand the landscape of sexual practices in the first century.[44]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For instance, when Paul talks of homosexuality in Romans, he’s speaking in the context of idolatry. Historical and literary context leads many scholars to conclude that when the Bible alludes to homosexuality it is talking about common forms of it in the ancient world, namely pederasty[45],  cultic prostitution[46],  and homosexual rape (e.g. implied in the story of Sodom), and not committed, loving homosexual relationships, which are supported by Christian movements like Metropolitan Community Church, SoulForce, and even the late Lewis Smedes[47],  an evangelical author who taught at Fuller Seminary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Don’t misread the Bible on homosexuality. Open your heart to gay people, who can’t change their orientation despite well-intentioned efforts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;40 Stossel, John, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity: Get Out the Shovel—Why Everything You Know is Wrong&lt;/span&gt;, page 185.&lt;br /&gt;41 Yancey, Philip, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;What’s So Amazing About Grace&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;42 White, Mel, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Stranger at the Gate: To Be Gay and Christian in America&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;43 See Campolo, Tony, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Speaking my Mind&lt;/span&gt;, page 67 and Rogers, Jack, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Jesus, the Bible, and Homosexuality&lt;/span&gt;, pages 73-74&lt;br /&gt;44 Helminiak, Daniel, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;What the Bible Really Says About Homosexuality &lt;/span&gt;and Cannon, Justin R., &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Bible, Christianity, and Homosexuality&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;45 The oppressive male-initiation practice in the Greco-Roman world of men having sex with boys&lt;br /&gt;46 For example, Cybelene worship in Corinth, Athens, Ephesus, and Rome, which included castrated male priests, and the temple of Aphrodite in Corinth, which had 1000 sacred female prostitutes. See Stark, Rodney, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Cities of God&lt;/span&gt;, pages 50 and 92.&lt;br /&gt;47 http://www.soulforce.org/article/748&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-2457029844879931803?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/2457029844879931803/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=2457029844879931803' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/2457029844879931803'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/2457029844879931803'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2010/04/support-gay-rights-not-wrongs.html' title='Support Gay Rights Not Wrongs'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-2690685095160667392</id><published>2010-03-14T12:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-03-14T13:06:28.607-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Culture'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Women'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sex'/><title type='text'>Have Sensible Sex</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;I Survived the Christian Right&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ten Lessons I Learned on My Journey Home&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Lesson 6: Have Sensible Sex&lt;/span&gt; – By now, I’m sure some have declared me a full-fledged heretic. Brace yourself, there’s more. Now for something totally uncomfortable—the subject of religion and sex. In my experience, with some noble exceptions (there are some excellent evangelical marriage manuals on sex), the evangelical church has largely been sex-negative, in other words, either it has suppressed open discussion or portrayal of sex for fear of promoting immorality, or it has condemned certain sexual behaviors, from nudity to masturbation to oral sex to all pre-marital sex, based on misinterpretations of the Bible.  &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;31&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My historical studies reveal today’s church views on sex have more to do with Greco-Roman Platonism and Augustine’s warped perspective—despite his wisdom on other topics—than a rational reading of scripture. For instance, the Jewish tradition from which Christianity arose was sex affirming. Correspondingly, contrary to popular belief, the Greco-Roman world, in which the early church grew, was not wholly a debauched sexual culture. The sex-negating Platonists and Stoics, who had fearful attitudes toward “irrational” sexual pleasure, influenced much of it. &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;32&lt;/span&gt;  This had impact on early church fathers like Augustine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One specific is how these sex-negative Greco-Roman values influenced the English translation of the Greek New Testament word porneia. Raymond Lawrence calls it “perhaps the most deliberately mistranslated word in the biblical literature,” &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;33&lt;/span&gt;  when it is rendered “fornication,” and I would argue when it is also translated “sexual immorality” (as in ‘flee sexual immorality’ &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;34&lt;/span&gt;). Conservative Biblicists have condemned a host of sexual behaviors under that one word, commonly summing it up as perverted sex or all sex outside of monogamous marriage, without understanding what it meant to the original audience. One scholar believes a better translation is “harlotry,”  &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;35&lt;/span&gt; for the connotation of porneia is selling oneself to break covenant. Moreover, it is not always about sex, as is evidenced by the times it or its Hebrew equivalent is translated as “idolatry.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Despite the fact that I would never endorse polygamy as a good idea, the fact is polygamy is never condemned in the Bible nor is monogamy strictly endorsed. In fact, the Torah commands polygamy in the case of the Leverite law &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;36&lt;/span&gt;  and supports it at times. &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;37&lt;/span&gt; Polygamy and concubinage were practiced by Old Testament heroes of the faith from Abraham to Jacob to Gideon to David and never censured by God, except excessive polygamy with foreign women outside the faith. The truth is that if Bathsheba had not been married to Uriah, David would not have committed adultery. The biblical literature defines adultery differently than we do in our modern context. &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;38&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Likewise with pre-marital sex, the Bible puts limitations on it because of the Jewish concern for pure lineage and because unmarried women were considered property of their fathers. There was no equivalent of today’s single woman, living outside her family’s home. Therefore, the Bible does not specifically condemn all singles sexuality. &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;39&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is not to say that we should emulate the male-dominated society of the Bible or married men have license to run out and grab the first single, pretty woman they see bathing on a rooftop (how David first saw Bathsheba). Promiscuity rooted in selfish, personal gratification cannot be defended. However, it does mean, if we are honest, that we should take the above facts into account when we decide on a sexual ethic for today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In sex, let the admonitions to love one another, treat each other kindly, and be responsible in our relationships, be the guiding principal, not absolutist rules that were never a part of the Bible’s historical and cultural milieu.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;31  Thelos, Philo, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Divine Sex: Liberating Sex from Religious Tradition&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;32 Lawrence, Raymond, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Poisoning of Eros&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;33 Lawrence, Raymond, Op. cit., page 2&lt;br /&gt;34 I Corinthians 6:18&lt;br /&gt;35 Countryman, William, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Dirt, Greed, and Sex&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;36 Deuteronomy 25:5-10&lt;br /&gt;37 Deuteronomy 21:15-17&lt;br /&gt;38 Countryman, Op. cit., page 159&lt;br /&gt;38 Countryman, Op. cit., page 264.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-2690685095160667392?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.homebrewedchristianity.com' title='Have Sensible Sex'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/2690685095160667392/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=2690685095160667392' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/2690685095160667392'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/2690685095160667392'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2010/03/have-sensible-sex.html' title='Have Sensible Sex'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-1087253437895193338</id><published>2010-02-20T12:03:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-02-20T12:30:08.318-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Politics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Culture'/><title type='text'>A Model for Community Change through Local Nonpartisan Politics</title><content type='html'>by &lt;a href="http://www.changeiaf.org/About_CHANGE.html"&gt;Jo Ann Goodson&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Deep Thought Pub&lt;/span&gt; guest blogger&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“If you don’t vote Republican or for this candidate, hell will break loose. If we pass Obama’s health care bill, the government will take over your life and God will judge us for funding abortion and disobeying the Ten Commandments.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This statement represents one of the things I think is so very wrong in our politics today and makes me want to run and hide instead of fighting back. For one thing I really do not like getting involved in politics but I do not have a choice if I really want changes to be made in the way we live in community. There are good things happening but there appears to be so much more that is wrong. I am involved in a group in my city that is trying to make a difference in how we live in community and how we can best help each other. We want a much better place in which to live and have our being. &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Our group is made up of Christians, Jews, Muslims and folks with no faith.&lt;/span&gt; The name of our group is called &lt;a href="http://www.changeiaf.org/About_CHANGE.html"&gt;CHANGE&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;C&lt;/span&gt;ommunity &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;H&lt;/span&gt;elping &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;A&lt;/span&gt;ll &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;N&lt;/span&gt;eighbors &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;ain &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;mpowerment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are not trying to make our city Christian. We are trying to organize to bring about social justice, equal opportunities for everyone, good education for our children and promote an environment in which they can better learn, health issues, what can be done about suspensions, dropouts and bullying in our school system. These are only a few things that we are currently working on. Some of the things we want to accomplish can only be done if our city government and CHANGE can work together. Thus I must be involved in politics if I want my wishes and prayers for my city/county to be accomplished.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think we can be an example of how good politics can be performed. Working together for the greater good of all. Respecting each other and our differences by putting aside our own agenda, whether Christian or other, and working for the good of everyone. &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;We do not threaten anyone with what will happen if they do not do as we say. &lt;/span&gt;We compromise and come to a good working plan together. In the end we can celebrate together on a job well done as we look at the results of our efforts. Our national government could take a lesson or two from us. We have accomplished some really good stuff together so far.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-1087253437895193338?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.changeiaf.org/About_CHANGE.html' title='A Model for Community Change through Local Nonpartisan Politics'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/1087253437895193338/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=1087253437895193338' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/1087253437895193338'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/1087253437895193338'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2010/02/model-for-community-change-through.html' title='A Model for Community Change through Local Nonpartisan Politics'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-7479001046151365442</id><published>2010-02-17T12:31:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-02-17T12:48:24.102-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Politics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Culture'/><title type='text'>Don’t be Seduced by Political Power</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;I Survived the Christian Right&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ten Lessons I Learned on My Journey Home&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Lesson 5: Don’t be Seduced by Political Power &lt;/span&gt;- I learned one of the warped mindsets of heavily financed political activism is an &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;us vs. them &lt;/span&gt;mentality. Today, this attitude continues to fuel the Christian Right in their quest to save America from moral depravity and reclaim it for Christ. &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Us vs. them&lt;/span&gt; mindsets can also be present in left-wing politics, but that is another story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Within evangelicalism, black-and-white, us vs. them, groupthink is pervasive. I saw that clearly when I was involved in the pro-life movement and Operation Rescue in the late 1980s. The attitude is one of drawing lines: Republican over Democrat, pro-life over pro-abortion, religious America over secular America, etc. But “power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.”&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;26&lt;/span&gt; Evangelicalism within the Christian Right has always been about taking control, getting the right candidates in, overcoming the enemy (abortion, homosexuals, liberals), legislating the right laws, forcing an abortion clinic to close, and reclaiming America for Christ, all by manipulating the masses through fear and demonization of opponents. If you don’t vote Republican or for this candidate, hell will break loose. If we pass Obama’s health care bill, the government will take over your life and God will judge us for funding abortion and disobeying the Ten Commandments.&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;27&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But these are lies, or if you’re inclined to be more gracious, false dichotomies. We live in a pluralistic society. Good politics is about compromise, not taking control. Real influence comes through open-minded persuasion and loving others, not by winning at the polls or banning abortion or suppressing gay rights. Democrats, as much as Republicans, care about decency and values. God works through more than one political party, outside of evangelicalism,&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;28&lt;/span&gt;  and in people of other faiths. As comprehensively argued by evangelical author Mark Noll, the historical record is clear that America is not a Christian nation the roots to which we must return.&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; 29 &lt;/span&gt; Christianity has had both positive (abolition and civil rights movements) and negative (intolerant, legalistic Puritans and endorsement of slavery) influence on our country.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do not lust for political power and cultural influence. &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;30&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;26 Thomas, Cal, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Blinded by Might: Why the Religious Right Can’t Save America&lt;/span&gt;, page 54&lt;br /&gt;27 In a prayer cast organized by the Family Research Council on December 16, 2009, Pastor Jim Garlow claimed the health care reform legislation currently being deliberated in the Senate, violated just about every one of the Ten Commandments!&lt;br /&gt;28 Cox, Harvey, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;When Jesus Came to Harvard&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;29 Noll, Mark, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;In Search for Christian America&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;30 Ballmer, Randall, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Thy Kingdom Come: An Evangelical’s Lament &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-7479001046151365442?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/7479001046151365442/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=7479001046151365442' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/7479001046151365442'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/7479001046151365442'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2010/02/dont-be-seduced-by-political-power.html' title='Don’t be Seduced by Political Power'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-7283427680450647381</id><published>2010-01-24T20:16:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-24T20:30:27.067-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eschatology'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><title type='text'>Don't be Deluded by the Last Days</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;I Survived the Christian Right&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ten Lessons I Learned on My Journey Home&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Lesson 4: Don't Be Deluded by the Last Days: &lt;/span&gt;As a brand-new believer in 1979 I tended to accept the pre-tribulation Rapture view that the Bible predicts Jesus would return a second time before a period of tribulation, to whisk believers up to heaven and leave unbelievers behind to face seven years of apocalyptic trials. After reading several critiques of this view,&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;18&lt;/span&gt; I realized it was farcical and unbiblical, not to mention highly manipulative the way preachers or authors—Hal Lindsey in the 70s and 80s and Tim LaHaye (Left Behind) today—use it to “persuade” people to come to Christ, or else. Despite this, like the majority of evangelicals, I still believed the return of Christ was in the future and possibly eminent, given the state of the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then around 1999, the preterists&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; 19&lt;/span&gt;  entered my life; the likes of R.C. Sproul, Gary DeMar, and Kenneth Gentry, ironically conservative evangelicals who introduced the notion that everything that Jesus predicted in the Olivet Discourse (Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21) was fulfilled between 64 and 70 AD.&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;20&lt;/span&gt;  They also viewed the speculation around the return of Christ as madness &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;21&lt;/span&gt; and the book of Revelation as written prior to 70 AD;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;22 &lt;/span&gt; hence its predictions were not speaking about thousands of years in the future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Their reasoning was refreshing. They cried Bible abuse by dispensationalists and the bulk of evangelicals in the widespread unreasonable belief that Jesus spoke of two events in the Olivet Discourse: a coming calamity on Jerusalem within a generation, and then in the next breath about his return to earth 2000 years in the future. After reading the preterists, I reread all those prophetic verses and suddenly they made perfect sense. &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;23&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What I didn’t expect was to come to believe these preterists weren’t going far enough. Considered “partial preterists,” they still believe in a future return of Christ at the time of the resurrection. But for this position to stand, there must be two second comings of Christ, one in 70 AD in judgment on Jewish Temple worship and one at a future resurrection. But this view is problematic because the New Testament does not speak of two second comings at all, or more accurately, a third coming. I found myself agreeing with the “consistent preterists,”&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;24 &lt;/span&gt; who say that all the prophecies about Jesus returning occurred at or before 70 AD based on a rational reading of the New Testament and first century historical evidence. &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;25&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Imagine that for a moment. Jesus has already returned. The drama is over. There is no need to unmask the mystery or fear the Antichrist, let alone shape American foreign policy around the return of Christ and the end of the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Get on with the business of saving the planet and promoting social justice in the world without secretly believing it will all be for naught in the end.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;18 DeMar, Gary, Last Days Madness: The Obsession of the Modern Church&lt;br /&gt;19 Preterists believe biblical events were fulfilled in the past as opposed to futurists, who believe they will be fulfilled in the future.&lt;br /&gt;20 Sproul, R.C., The Last Days According to Jesus, and Josephus, The Jewish Wars&lt;br /&gt;21 DeMar, Gary, Op. cit.&lt;br /&gt;22 Gentry, Kenneth, Jr., Before Jerusalem Fell: Dating the Book of Revelation&lt;br /&gt;23 e.g. Jesus said, “I tell you the truth, this generation shall certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.” Matthew 24:34 and “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place.” Revelation 1:1&lt;br /&gt;24 J. Stuart Russell, The Parousia, and www.preterist.org&lt;br /&gt;25 Josephus, Tacitus, and Eusebius. They cite occurrences of false prophets, famines, earthquakes, wars, and astronomical signs leading up to 70 AD that match what Jesus predicted.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-7283427680450647381?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/7283427680450647381/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=7283427680450647381' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/7283427680450647381'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/7283427680450647381'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2010/01/dont-be-deluded-by-last-days-lesson-4.html' title='Don&apos;t be Deluded by the Last Days'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-2550876357679268677</id><published>2010-01-10T13:56:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-10T14:08:06.546-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>Avoid Legalism Like the Plague - Lesson 3</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;I Survived the Christian Right&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ten Lessons I Learned on My Journey Home&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Lesson 3: Avoid Legalism Like the Plague&lt;/span&gt; - One day I was enjoying a beer with a friend in a popular pub near my home when I noticed someone who went to my former evangelical church. After I picked myself off the floor due to shock from seeing him in a bar, we greeted each other and I asked if he still attended.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“I finally left last year,” the man said.&lt;br /&gt;“Do you mind me asking why you left?” I asked.&lt;br /&gt;“I got tired of jumping through hoops.” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What an apt way of describing what I also experienced in the majority of the six or seven evangelical churches I attended over the years. Why do some churches make our faith journey into an obstacle course on a field of required religious practices and doctrines? Could legalistic control have something to do with it? Again, there are some admirable exceptions, but as Brennan Manning once said, “the American church accepts grace in theory, but denies it in practice.” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Evangelical Christians largely conform to a performance-oriented approach to God:  Regularly attend church to worship God our way, pray and read the Bible daily, go to a home group, adhere to a particular statement of faith, believe in the right doctrines and the future return of Christ, be pro-life, dress modestly, don’t drink (or if you do, please don’t do it in front of us), avoid questionable movies, don’t put swear words, sex scenes, or questionable doctrines in your books,  refrain from producing music on a secular recording label, and whatever you do, don’t vote for a Democrat. And those are the more moderate rules! In summary, avoid contamination by the world, heretics, and liberals and insulate yourself in the squeaky-clean alternate evangelical world we created.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I saw many evangelicals forget that “we are no longer under the supervision of the law,”  and “whoever loves his fellow human being has fulfilled the law.”  The lesson? Evangelicalism is inundated with religious baggage and a host of man-made written and unwritten regulations that have nothing to do with authentic spirituality. Since “Christ is the end of the law”  or a law-based approach to God, we are free to govern ourselves under Christ’s one overriding law of love.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Find ways to love God and love your neighbor and don’t worry about fitting into some legalistic evangelical mold. Or any kind of Christian mold, for that matter.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-2550876357679268677?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/2550876357679268677/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=2550876357679268677' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/2550876357679268677'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/2550876357679268677'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2010/01/avoid-legalism-like-plague-lesson-3.html' title='Avoid Legalism Like the Plague - Lesson 3'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-1030457758100875788</id><published>2010-01-03T10:13:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-10T14:09:03.559-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>Leave Churchianity - Lesson 2</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;I Survived the Christian Right&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:100%;" &gt;Ten Lessons I Learned on My Journey Home&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;Lesson 2: Leave &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Churchianity&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; - Surprise! Jesus didn’t found an institutional church. &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;9&lt;/span&gt;  For that matter, he didn’t found a religion either. He also didn’t expect his followers to set up a Christian version of the synagogue, let alone create a parallel Christian universe where microbrews are banned.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I worked on a church planting team in Malawi, Africa in the 1990s, I studied the early church and began to realize how unbiblical our modern concept of church is. I came to see that professional salaried clergy, a clergy-laity distinction, meetings in buildings, church budgets, hierarchal leadership, and legalistic requirements were not present in early Christianity. Frank Viola and George Barna make the case that most of these elements of church were borrowed from pagan culture. &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;10&lt;/span&gt;  That doesn’t make them necessarily evil, just not based on the original, and not &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;the&lt;/span&gt; model for Christian fellowship. The word translated “church” is the Greek &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ecclesia&lt;/span&gt;, which simply means “gathering” and does not denote an institution. The same word is used for a “mob” in the book of Acts. &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;11&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Evangelical churches routinely espouse modern church membership and active involvement as God’s only way of building the Kingdom and creating mature believers. I recently heard a pastor describe his love for the institutional church in terms normally used for ascribing worship to God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Undoubtedly, there are churches that are healthy places to grow spiritually, but my experience also reveals how prevalent spiritual abuse is found in fundamentalist and evangelical churches. One could argue that the doctrine of the institutional church is largely to blame for abuses. Why? It promotes &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;churchianity&lt;/span&gt;—the practice of making belief in Jesus largely focused on the habits and demands of the institutional church (doctrinal purity, religious behavior), rather than on God’s love. &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Churchianity&lt;/span&gt; encourages authoritarian leadership, which is at the core of spiritual abuse. It also doesn’t encourage people to think for themselves. Blind compliance is sure to follow. “Evangelicals are enamored with power and control. That’s why numbers and measures are so important to evangelicals, and why compliance is next to godliness.” &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;12&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Don’t put up with &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;churchianity&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;9 Wills, Garry, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;What Jesus Meant&lt;/span&gt;, page 78.&lt;br /&gt;10 Viola, Frank and Barna, George, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Pagan Christianity,&lt;/span&gt; page xix.&lt;br /&gt;11 Wills, Garry, Op. cit., page 78.&lt;br /&gt;12 Mike Yaconelli, in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Post Evangelical&lt;/span&gt; by Dave Tomlinson, page 28. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-1030457758100875788?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/1030457758100875788/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=1030457758100875788' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/1030457758100875788'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/1030457758100875788'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2010/01/leave-churchianity-lesson-2.html' title='Leave Churchianity - Lesson 2'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-2490836250281254691</id><published>2010-01-02T10:26:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:51:20.653-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><title type='text'>I Survived the Christian Right: Beware of Bible Abuse</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;Ten Lessons I Learned on My Journey Home&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK, I confess. There are only nine lessons, but ten sounds better.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A quest for a reasoned faith based on reality. That was largely what my 27-year sojourn in evangelicalism was about. Although evangelicals are not a monolithic block comprised only of conservatives (progressive evangelicals are becoming more influential), I found the movement and my experience saturated with the mindset of the Christian Right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This mindset often calls things “truth” when they are only half-truth, thus making falsehood hard to detect. I didn’t find my whole experience bogus—I was and still am enthralled with Jesus’ teaching, signs of God working in my life, and supportive of things evangelicals do right, like fighting poverty through organizations like World Vision. But what I increasingly found was a lack of authenticity and reasoned perspectives on faith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I weathered the theological storm and made it home to a progressive Christianity, taking with me valuable insights derived from ten eye-opening discoveries. There I go again. I mean nine. The following are lessons readers open to new paradigms can learn.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;Lesson 1: Beware of Bible Abuse&lt;/span&gt; – With some notable exceptions, most evangelicals I know primarily read the Bible devotionally, meaning they read it in a superficial way without regard to the conditions of history, culture, genre, or its own literary context. They also believe it is the infallible Word of God and expect God to speak to them personally through its message. I read the Bible this way for years. But I gradually learned a valuable lesson. Although harmless on occasion, a predominantly devotional approach to Bible study inevitably leads to Bible abuse—handling scripture in a way that the original author did not intend and the original audience would never recognize. Although it is mostly done unintentionally, I find people abuse the Bible in three ways.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Misinterpretation&lt;/span&gt; – The most common form is when people take verses or passages out of their literary context, for example, the practice of citing isolated verses to bolster a doctrine. In other words proof-texting. That’s why we should “read the Bible like drinking beer, not sipping wine.” &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another form of this is practicing poor exegesis and hermeneutics. Exegesis is ascertaining a passage’s original meaning through understanding its historical and cultural background. Hermeneutics is deciding how to apply a passage to our modern circumstances. Without doing the hard work of both of these, it’s easy to misinterpret what the Bible teaches. &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;  Passages are applied with a wooden literalism, which causes a host of problems, including dogmatic teaching on divorce, tithing, the eminent return of Christ, and sexuality, to name only a few.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Applying Strict Authority&lt;/span&gt; – Despite the fact that the Bible does not claim to be inerrant, &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;3 &lt;/span&gt;fundamentalists and many evangelicals insist it is. When I visited L’Abri Fellowship in Switzerland in 1984, I studied this doctrine and concluded there was little evidence to support it.  Gradually, I came to believe that the Bible is not a set of timeless maxims to be obeyed to the letter. It never claims to be the Word of God, only that Jesus is the Word come down from God and the Jewish prophets spoke the word of the Lord. When every isolated verse or passage is applied with equal authority, the phenomenon of Bibliolatry results.&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Moreover, the evidence supports the notion that parts of our modern Bible were added by copyists and go beyond the original manuscripts, which we don’t have. &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;5  &lt;/span&gt;One example is the controversial passage in I Corinthians 14 often used to justify the suppression of women. It states women should not teach but be silent in church and in full subjection to men. Yet the evidence is strong that Paul did not write these verses but later copyists added them. &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;6&lt;/span&gt;  The Jesus Seminar makes this mistake in the opposite direction when it dogmatically concludes portions of Jesus’ sayings are not genuine based on subjective opinion, not on manuscript evidence. &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;7&lt;/span&gt; These discoveries reveal how our modern Bible can still contain divine inspiration—and powerful lessons rooted in godly wisdom—without every part of it being the Word of God or wholly free from human error.  &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Mistranslation&lt;/span&gt; – There are several places in the New Testament where the English word chosen in most popular translations is almost assuredly not correct. I will cite several of them below. Our modern English translations are not as accurate as we think and should not always be taken at face value.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Read the Bible in its own historical, cultural, and literary context. Don’t worship it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;1  N.T. Wright&lt;br /&gt;2  See Fee, Gordon, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:78%;" &gt;How to Read the Bible for All Its Worth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3  Countryman, William, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:78%;" &gt;Biblical Authority or Biblical Tyranny?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4  Bible worship; see Thatcher, Adrian, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:78%;" &gt;The Savage Text: The Use and Abuse of the Bible,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt; page 4.&lt;br /&gt;5  Erdman, Bart D., &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:78%;" &gt;Misquoting Jesus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6  Fee, Gordon, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:78%;" &gt;The First Epistle to the Corinthians&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;, and Erdman, Op. cit., page 183.&lt;br /&gt;7  Wills, Gary, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:78%;" &gt;What Jesus Meant&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;, page xxv.&lt;br /&gt;8  Wills, Gary, Op. cit. and Countryman, William, Op. cit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-2490836250281254691?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/2490836250281254691/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=2490836250281254691' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/2490836250281254691'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/2490836250281254691'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2010/01/i-survived-christian-right-lesson-1.html' title='I Survived the Christian Right: Beware of Bible Abuse'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-7513210599846422710</id><published>2009-11-22T10:22:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:30:05.462-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fundamentalism'/><title type='text'>Squash Fundamentalism Wherever it Rears Its Ugly Head</title><content type='html'>Go for the jugular of fundamentalist mindsets. It is the enemy of freedom of thought. It is plagued by the disease of black-and-white thinking. It divides and often conquers. Yet, fundamentalism is harder to detect than one might realize. It's easy to see it when someone  on the Religious Right discriminates against women or gays or promotes a controlling morality based on literalist views of the Bible. It's harder to see when held by progressive secularlists who rightly critique right-wing fundamentalism but succumb to black-and-white thinking in their response.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Years ago I was wrong about atheists. I rejected their world view and their motivation. I wrongly believed they chose to deny God because of their selfish desire to live autonomously in a universe free from moral restraints. I since learned that there are varieties of atheists, just like there are varieties of theists, and many atheists are moral and upright individuals. In fact, one of my heroes these days is an atheist: Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who wrote &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Infidel-Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali/dp/0743289692/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1258917439&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;Infidel&lt;/a&gt;, and fights for the rights of Muslim women. But I also learned that some atheists are fundamentalists. Like fundy religionists, they don't fight fair, have an ax to grind, and refuse to go where the evidence leads.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Richard Dawkins, who regularly calls believers delusional, falls in the fundy-atheist category, I would say, along with others among "the new atheists." Atheist Michael Ruse said Dawkin's book, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/God-Delusion-Richard-Dawkins/dp/0618918248/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1258917495&amp;amp;sr=1-1"&gt;The God Delusion&lt;/a&gt;, makes him embarrassed to be an atheist. I respect Ruse for his candor. Antony Flew, the most famous atheist in Europe, changed his position and became a deist. When I read why in  his book (&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/There-God-Notorious-Atheist-Changed/dp/0061335304/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1258917585&amp;amp;sr=1-1"&gt;There is a God&lt;/a&gt;), I gained a new respect for him and his position, even during the time he was an atheist. According to Frank Schaeffer in his new book, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Patience-God-People-Religion-Atheism/dp/030681854X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1258917637&amp;amp;sr=1-1"&gt;Patience with God&lt;/a&gt;, atheist Daniel Dennett argues decently and is no fundamentalist. (Dennett, author of &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Spell-Religion-Natural-Phenomenon/dp/0143038338/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1258917715&amp;amp;sr=1-1"&gt;Breaking the Spell&lt;/a&gt; is one of "the-gang-of-four" new atheists along with Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, and Sam Harris).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is such a thing as atheistic fundamentalism. I've learned there is a balanced way to approach religious arguments--in fact any controversial argument--that respects the facts over dogma and always attempts to go where the evidence and one's honest life reflection leads. This leads me to want to squash fundamentalism wherever it rears its ugly head--including inside myself--and pursue this balanced path instead. Care to join me?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-7513210599846422710?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.amazon.com/Patience-God-People-Religion-Atheism/dp/030681854X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1258917902&amp;sr=1-1' title='Squash Fundamentalism Wherever it Rears Its Ugly Head'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/7513210599846422710/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=7513210599846422710' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/7513210599846422710'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/7513210599846422710'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2009/11/squash-fundamentalism-wherever-it-rears.html' title='Squash Fundamentalism Wherever it Rears Its Ugly Head'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-5368491280356889496</id><published>2009-09-25T12:57:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:31:01.347-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sex'/><title type='text'>Shameless Sex</title><content type='html'>I applaud Keith Graber Miller’s call for a balanced sexual counterculture (Sojourners Magazine - Sept-Oct. 2009, &lt;a href="http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=magazine.home"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Sex Without Shame&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;) that exults sex-positivism in light of God’s gift of sexuality and exposes sexual irresponsibility and exploitation. It’s refreshing to see a reasoned view on masturbation, homosexuality, and youth sexuality coming from a serious Biblicist. While the church has a long way to go to shed its sex negativism, popular culture often promotes free love without responsible limits. Miller hits on two important distinctives the church and society need to hear: (1) God is more concerned that people demonstrate genuine unselfish love, respect, and care in relationships, than in what bodily interactions they pursue, and (2) good sex that is life-affirming comes after we get what we really need—a powerful intimate connection that guards against hurt, jealousy, and brokenness. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-5368491280356889496?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=magazine.home' title='Shameless Sex'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/5368491280356889496/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=5368491280356889496' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/5368491280356889496'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/5368491280356889496'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2009/09/shameless-sex.html' title='Shameless Sex'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-5593368173172240137</id><published>2009-08-01T07:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:31:23.260-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Writing'/><title type='text'>Conference Writes the Book on Writing</title><content type='html'>I'm at the &lt;a href="http://www.pnwa.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=5"&gt;Pacific Northwest Writer's Association&lt;/a&gt; annual conference as I write this and it's been a wonderful experience. They have great sessions for people in every stage of writing and particularly for folks who are ready or are currently pitching their book and searching for an agent. Yesterday I pitched my book, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Confessions of a Bible Thumper&lt;/span&gt;, to an editor and an agent and will meet more agents today. For any other aspiring writers out there, a writer's conference such as this one is the place to go to get grounded in book writing best practices. As is joining a writer's group and reading books like Anne LaMott's &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Bird-Some-Instructions-Writing-Life/dp/0385480016/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1249136995&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Bird by Bird&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; or Stephen King's &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Writing-Stephen-King/dp/0743455967/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1249137044&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;On Writing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. The biggest lesson for me is that writing a book or any noteworthy piece goes way beyond writing the crappy first draft but is a long process of writing, rewriting, and having your work reviewed and critiqued by a variety of people to get your transforming ideas out there in a succinct, understandable, humorous, and highly engaging form.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-5593368173172240137?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/5593368173172240137/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=5593368173172240137' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/5593368173172240137'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/5593368173172240137'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2009/08/conference-writes-book-on-writing.html' title='Conference Writes the Book on Writing'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-8204298779115352669</id><published>2009-07-08T10:53:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:57:10.420-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Intelligent Design'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evolution'/><title type='text'>Getting Intelligent Design Straight</title><content type='html'>I finished a draft of the chapter on &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Last Days Delusions&lt;/span&gt;, but true to form, I just have to start another chapter before cleaning the last one up. I love multi-tasking, hence the way I read 5 books at a time and write the same way. I was having a conversation with my father--a kind of ID-controversy guru--and asked him about Michael Behe (a leading ID proponent) and some of the things he said in his newest book, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Edge-Evolution-Search-Limits-Darwinism/dp/0743296222/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1247076406&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;The Edge of Evolution&lt;/a&gt;. Behe is roundly attacked by staunch evolutionists, but guess what? What I suspected is true. He is officially a theistic evolutionist! Not of the Darwinian variety, of course, since that is what ID theorists critique--and in my mind, rightly so. Nevertheless, I found &lt;a href="http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/1449"&gt;an interview of him&lt;/a&gt; on the Internet (during my conversation--I just love how quickly we can find stuff these days), and he said common design is not as good as an explanation of common descent as an evolutionary model is. He's not a Darwinist, but he still believes in evolution! What's the difference? I explain that in the chapter in my book. Point is that most of his ID colleagues disagree with him. You can be an ID theorist and still be an evolutionist (for that matter, you can be agnostic too, like David Berlinski). The media doesn't get it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, why don't all the other theistic evolutionists (Ken Miller, Brown U., Francis Collins, Head of Genome Project) applaud people like Behe? It appears it's not evolution per se, that is the god of science, but Darwinism. I will explore this later.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-8204298779115352669?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/8204298779115352669/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=8204298779115352669' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/8204298779115352669'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/8204298779115352669'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2009/07/getting-intelligent-design-straight.html' title='Getting Intelligent Design Straight'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-548439812267325233</id><published>2009-06-26T08:39:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:32:48.290-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Writing'/><title type='text'>The Writing-Researching-Publishing Process</title><content type='html'>Anyone who wants to follow my experience writing, researching, promoting, and publishing my book (Working title: &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Confessions of a Bible Thumper - My Sojourn as an Evangelical, Why I Left the Fold, and How I Discovered a More Reasoned Faith&lt;/span&gt;), follow me on Twitter: &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/Michael_W_Camp"&gt;http://twitter.com/Michael_W_Camp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-548439812267325233?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://twitter.com/Michael_W_Camp' title='The Writing-Researching-Publishing Process'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/548439812267325233/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=548439812267325233' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/548439812267325233'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/548439812267325233'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2009/06/writing-researching-publishing-process.html' title='The Writing-Researching-Publishing Process'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-7663253896879568434</id><published>2009-06-23T17:09:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:33:10.231-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Women'/><title type='text'>Paul the Egalitarian</title><content type='html'>I knew Jesus was an egalitarian in the way he respected women in the first century's  male-dominated society, but Paul? His infamous passages denigrating women made me shudder, along with every feminist on the planet. In my more moderate evangelical circles, we dealt with those passages as culturally conditioned anomalies of first century bias that were not applicable to our modern cultural context. But what if those passages were never in the original Greek text? That was something I never considered because the possibility was never allowed inside the narrow confines of the theologically-conservative churches I attended.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, you learn something new every day. In reading Bart Ehrman's &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Misquoting-Jesus-Story-Behind-Changed/dp/0060859512/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1245803781&amp;amp;sr=1-1"&gt;Misquoting Jesus&lt;/a&gt;: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why, I learned just how reasonable the case is that the I Cor. 14:34-35 passage ("It is shameful for a woman to speak in church..." That one.) is bogus. What a breath of fresh air. But the real shocker for me is that my old friend Gordon Fee (not literally--I'm a long time fan of one of his books on how to interpret the Bible), put forth this case way back in 1987 in his commentary on I Corinthians! Where the hell was I? I didn't get the memo. Ehrman cited Fee in his book. I feel slighted. All these years Fee taught part of the Bible was altered and the evangelical church never bought it. And the Bible hasn't been revised (or footnoted as far as I know) in any modern translations to reflect it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The case is strong. Take verses 33b to 35 out and read the passage and see how much more it makes sense. And, how suddenly Paul isn't contradicting his great line "...there is no male or female in Christ... all are one," or what he says elsewhere, or contradicting Jesus and his welcoming of women. Ehrman reveals how additions to texts were not uncommon by scribes who had theologically biased reasons to alter things. Some of them never made it into our modern Bibles but some did! Ehrman (and Garry Wills) also makes the case that Paul didn't write I Timothy. Guess where the other anti-feminist verse is attributed to Paul? You got it. I Timothy.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-7663253896879568434?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/7663253896879568434/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=7663253896879568434' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/7663253896879568434'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/7663253896879568434'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2009/06/paul-egalitarian.html' title='Paul the Egalitarian'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-8901708582962758268</id><published>2009-06-21T17:14:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T16:01:59.465-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Universalism'/><title type='text'>Universal Life</title><content type='html'>Two books I recently read have helped shape my rethinking of the traditional evangelical view of salvation. &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Inescapable-Love-God-Thomas-Talbott/dp/1581128312/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1245631273&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Inescapable Love of God&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; by Thomas Talbot and &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Evangelical-Universalist-Gregory-MacDonald/dp/0281059888/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1245631336&amp;amp;sr=1-1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Evangelical Universalist&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; by Gregory MacDonald (a psuedonym) make a near impenetrable case that universal reconciliation was the original intent of the apostle Paul and Jesus. How could the church be teaching exclusivism all these years and never have disclosed this fact? My theory is that traditionalism is so strong in evangelicalism and other conservative Christian movements that any diversion from it is suppressed. For example, how many evangelicals were ever taught that the church fathers Origen, Gregory of Nyassa, and several others were universalists? How many know that universliasts have included such prominent people as President John Adams and George MacDonald (a favorite author of C.S. Lewis)? How many people know that the word "everlasting" in Jesus' famous Sheep and the Goats passage is more accurately translated as "pertaining to an age" and that Jesus wasn't talking about a never-ending punishment but a punishment that pertained to the coming age? How many recognize that Paul made several statements that strongly support universalism including "as in one man, Adam, all sinned, so through one man, Jesus, all will be reconciled?" No, most aren't aware of these facts because they don't fit the traditional view and teachers and Bible commentators are either ignorant of them or are deliberately overlooking them. I bring these details and much more out in one of the chapters in my book, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Confessions of a Bible Thumper&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-8901708582962758268?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.amazon.com/Inescapable-Love-God-Thomas-Talbott/dp/1581128312/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1245631273&amp;sr=8-1' title='Universal Life'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/8901708582962758268/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=8901708582962758268' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/8901708582962758268'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/8901708582962758268'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2009/06/universal-life.html' title='Universal Life'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-5478427699292197903</id><published>2008-12-22T18:30:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-04-21T12:22:16.171-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gay Rights'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Homosexuality'/><title type='text'>The Bible and Gay Marriage</title><content type='html'>This is the title of the collection of letters published in Newsweek in response to Lisa Miller's article in the Dec. 15 issue on her religious case for gay marriage (Our Mutual Joy). 40,000 readers responded, the vast majority arguing against Miller's case by claiming misinterpretations of the Bible. Here we go again with the scourge of black and white thinking and narrowly focused literalist reading of the Scriptures--mostly by religious conservatives, but also to a lesser degree, by Miller herself. Here's how I see various issues stand:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1 - Defining marriage - Miller is spot on. Conservatives define traditional marriage in a distorted way by conveniently overlooking the obvious acceptance in Scripture of polygamy, concubinage, and forms of open marriage. The list is long of heroes of the OT who practiced these including Abraham, the father of the Christian faith, whose wife gave him permission to sleep with her maidservant, and David, a man after God's own heart, who was rebuked for stealing another man's wife and murdering her husband, then told by God himself if he wanted more wives, God would have given him more if he had only asked. One man-one woman monogamy, as a law, was foreign to the traditional Jewish concept of marriage. Polygamy was not only allowed but encouraged by God through the Leverite law that commanded men to marry their brother's widow if the brother died without fathering children. Point Miller. Let's understand our definitions of terms per the Scriptures themselves. The Bible does not define marriage as explicitly between one man and one woman.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2 - Paul's attitude to marriage - Miller misses an important point. Paul did not regard marriage as an act of last resort, as she claims. Jewish tradition and Scripture encouraged heterosexual marriage as a given, inevitable outcome. In the NT, Paul was stating his view of marriage in light of "the eschalogical challenge," that is, the prevailing belief among the apostles that Jesus would return very soon and a time of intense hardship was at hand. In fact, it came in the late 60s to 70 AD with the terrible events and siege that led up to Jerusalem's destruction. Paul was telling unmarried men it was better not to have marriage as a distraction during such times, but if they couldn't control their desire that it was understandable that they marry. Point religious conservatives. Let's understand the context of a passage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3 - The sin of homosexuality - Miller brings out several important points but misses several others. What exactly is Paul condemning in Romans and the other epistles? The context of Romans is idolatry. Idol worshipers end up doing things contrary to nature or more accurately, custom, and then become depraved. Is Paul condemning homosexuality across the board or only certain forms of it, such as shrine prostitution and humiliation and rape--common practices in the OT--and pederasty, a common practice among Greeks and Romans. Then there are the words in Paul's writings translated "homosexual" that are disputed by scholars who have no axe to grind. Paul's hearers no doubt did not think of our modern definition of homosexuals when they heard the original Greek words he used, and most definately did not think of lesbians. Point Paul. He was tough on idolatry and legalism and the obvious self-deluded and violent sins. He did not comment on loving same-sex relationships by those who believe in and love God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4 - The love of Jesus - Miller alludes to it. Religious conservatives claim his love does not condone sin and making judgments about sin. But how did Jesus define sin? His most strident rebukes went to the Pharisees, the most religious zealots of the day who were notorious legalistic hair-splitters who could never find enough grace to make exceptions to the law, nor recognize the overriding principle that Christ taught--that love is the fullfilment of the law. He who loves his neighbor has met the law's demands. We are not longer under the law's supervision. Christ is the end of the law, as Paul taught. So, we no longer have to be fruitful and multiply, nor marry, if we choose not to. We no longer have to keep the ceremonial law, nor the sabbath, if we choose. Women no longer need be under a double standard, but are equal with men. But we do have to keep the law of love and let that be our guide--a guide that can override the letter of the law. Is it possible to love God and your neighbor and have a homosexual relationship? I believe it is. How can it be impossible? It may not produce children, but neither do single parents or those who choose celibacy. Point Jesus. Love trumps the letter of the law.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-5478427699292197903?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.newsweek.com/id/174435' title='The Bible and Gay Marriage'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/5478427699292197903/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=5478427699292197903' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/5478427699292197903'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/5478427699292197903'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2008/12/bible-and-gay-marriage.html' title='The Bible and Gay Marriage'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-5406310456864044438</id><published>2008-09-20T10:38:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:58:42.505-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fundamentalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><title type='text'>Take the Insider's Tour of Evangelicalism</title><content type='html'>I'm a former Baptist missionary, aid worker, and Senior Writer for World Vision. I want to take you on an insider tour of evangelicalism, one of the fastest growing religious movements in America today. If you’re tired of Bible thumping or were ever tempted to thump a Bible thumper, this tour could be your cure. Laced with wit and humor (I hope you think so too),  my journey takes you from my conversion amidst the 1970s Jesus Movement to Muslim animistic Africa with plenty of church-experience stops along the way to expose the good, bad, and the ugly of the evangelical movement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I don't stop there. Often disillusioned with evangelical institutions and dogma, I venture into the realm of the radical Left and their response to the Christian Right, only to find that religious conservatives don’t have a monopoly on fundamentalist mindsets. With clowns to the Christian Right and jokers to the secular Left, what is the average Joe to do who believes in God, is weary of organized religion, enjoys sex, watches the Daily Show (OK, Comedy Central also works), and can’t turn down a good microbrew? Well, before you throw in the towel and affix the new nifty atheist symbol to your bumper, you might want to check out my proposed alternate way: recover a reasonable faith that takes the New Testament call for freedom from man-made religion seriously, rejects narrow literalism, and insists on going where the evidence leads.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; In my unique iconoclastic style (again, I hope so), I explore the fundamentalist roots of the church, charismatic and mainstream evangelicalism, the new progressives, including the emergent church, and over reactions to the Christian Right such as the writings of Bishop Shelby Spong and Sam Harris. By weaving personal stories and anecdotes together with some of the most controversial hot-potato issues of our day, I ponder such thought-provoking questions as these while answering them with clear reasoning and meticulous references from scholars, historians, and scientists:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;•    How and why do some Christians abuse the Bible?&lt;br /&gt;• Why is the traditional doctrine of hell based more on tradition than on what the Bible truly affirms?&lt;br /&gt;• Why is the evangelical church wrong on the gay rights issue?&lt;br /&gt;•    What’s all this rigmarole about the end of the world and Jesus’ return?&lt;br /&gt;•    Why are Christians wrong when they claim someone like Gandhi isn’t “saved?”&lt;br /&gt;•    Is there a reasonable way to solve the religion vs. science debate?&lt;br /&gt;•    Is materialistic atheism really ruling the day intellectually?&lt;br /&gt;•    And the real stumper, Can we ever recover from the damage done by the Teletubbies?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you want to learn how to squash fundamentalism wherever it rears its ugly head, on the Right or the Left, and yearn for some clarity in religious thought and the culture wars, my tour in the form of a new book called &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Confessions of a Bible Thumper&lt;/span&gt;, may be your ticket to an authentic and progressive spirituality independent of dogmatic trappings. What part of this tour are you fascinated with?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-5406310456864044438?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/5406310456864044438/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=5406310456864044438' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/5406310456864044438'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/5406310456864044438'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2008/09/take-insiders-tour-of-evangelicalism.html' title='Take the Insider&apos;s Tour of Evangelicalism'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-6322684717911695358</id><published>2007-11-10T11:45:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:57:58.785-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fundamentalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><title type='text'>Confessions of a Bible Thumper</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Why haven't I posted anything in a while someone asked? Well, I've been busy working my day job and on a new writing project (could turn into a book) that I will begin to preview here. I welcome all your comments. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;font-size:130%;"  &gt;How a Former Evangelical Survived the Christian Right, Rejected the Radical Left, and Recovered a Rational Faith&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Introduction&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The enigma of Christian fundamentalism and most of evangelicalism is the loss of the biblical concept of freedom and the development of the unbiblical system of performance-based religion. Based on their preoccupation with biblical inerrancy and literalism, most of evangelicalism has succumbed to a deep-seated and insidious legalism that grips conservative bible-believing Christians with an iron fist that refuses to let go. From the asinine superficiality of extreme fundamentalism to the more thoughtful faith of moderate evangelicals (but no less performance- and law-based) the conservative church is in spiritual bondage, suffering from a severe drought of grace—something with which it should be inundated given what the Bible truly teaches. As one conservative church member said to me recently when I asked him why he stopped attending church, “I got tired of jumping through hoops.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although there may be glimpses of freedom among some progressive evangelicals, legalism typically reigns supreme, taking various forms within individual churches and denominations. The censorious gradations include on one side of the extreme written and unwritten codes for dress, behavior, speech, sex, ministry, and non-essential doctrines (e.g., restrictions on skirt lengths, body piercings, alcohol use, most if not all divorce, certain sexual behaviors even among married couples, women in ministry, adherence to the King James Bible only, and fundamentalist statements of fairh). Moderates aren’t nearly as strict yet have their own written and unwritten legalistic codes that include measuring a person’s godly maturity based on how well they practice spiritual disciplines, such as praying and reading the Bible, and their degree of commitment to, and financial support of, an institutional church. In short, legalistic evangelicalism focuses primarily on what believers must do for God rather than on what God has done for them. Afraid of teaching true biblical freedom, the institutional church attempts to control people through its emphasis on creating and enforcing laws derived from misinterpretations of the Bible and traditional non-biblical teachings rather than allowing individuals to govern themselves under the overriding law that Christ taught—love for God and neighbor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shamefully, the church also suffers from a shortage of clear thinking. Mark Noll laid out that case in his seminal book where he stated in the first sentence, “The scandal of the evangelical mind is that there is not much of an evangelical mind.” Not exactly an encouraging sign. Although Noll recognizes certain virtues of evangelicals, such as sacrifice and generosity to the needy, he concludes they are not exemplary for their thinking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ironically, the enigma of the radical religious Left is their extreme emotional overreaction to the Christian Right. Garry Wills calls this “the new fundamentalism”, a term he uses to describe the work of the team of scholars who make up the Jesus Seminar. “Though some people have called the Jesus Seminarists radical, they are actually very conservative. They tame the real, radical Jesus, cutting him down to their own size.” Wills is no card-carrying fundamentalist.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Confessions of a Bible Thumper is the product of my journey of 25 years as a card-carrying evangelical who, frankly, got tired of jumping through hoops. Disillusioned with anti-intellectualism, superficial platitudes and pseudo-spiritual pat answers, both blatant and subtle legalism, litmus tests for outsiders, and the gross and widespread mishandling of the Scriptures, I left my bible-thumping ways only to find that many liberal alternatives to the Christian Right aren’t much better.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://home.comcast.net/%7Epromodesigns/DTP/confessions_post.htm"&gt;Read entire Introduction...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-6322684717911695358?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://home.comcast.net/~promodesigns/DTP/confessions_post.htm' title='Confessions of a Bible Thumper'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/6322684717911695358/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=6322684717911695358' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/6322684717911695358'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/6322684717911695358'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2007/11/confessions-of-bible-thumper.html' title='Confessions of a Bible Thumper'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-116387331621670804</id><published>2006-11-18T09:23:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:35:56.588-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='International Issues'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Politics'/><title type='text'>Rethinking Iraq</title><content type='html'>Recently in &lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15459024/site/newsweek"&gt;Newsweek&lt;/a&gt; (November 6 cover "We're losing, but all isn't lost.", Fareed Zakaria wrote an excellent and balanced view of Irag with recommendations for a way forward. Frankly, I'm tired of simplistic pronouncements on "Bush's War", from both Bush critics and some supporters. Critics blindly overlook the stark realities of the Saddam era, saying we should leave now and never should have been there in the first place. Some supporters, and Bush himself, overlook the stark realities of the escalated Sunni/Shiite sectarian hatred and violence (and the fact that much fighting is largely not a jihadist crusade but a Sunni struggle for control of the country) and its impact on uniting a democratic Iraq. Zakaria gives a more realistic picture and suggests a more balanced solution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Democracy in Iraq--although I believe it still has a fighting chance--is not winning. Zakaria says we must "reduce and deploy our troops and nudge Iraqis toward a deal" in order to avoid total loss and get a "gray" outcome. In laying out the bad and the ugly, he doesn't overlook the good: a free Kurdish north and democratic free elections. One point he hits home is the critical fact that "the way out of this stalemate is not to pack up and go home. That will surely result in a bloodbath or worse."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One element missing from Zakaria's analysis is the need for forgiveness in Iraqi society. Without it, there is little hope. Shiites are venting after years of Sunni control and oppression, and Sunnis are retaliating trying to regain control. Shortly after Zakaria's article (and Saddam's hanging sentence), the largely Shia-controlled government finally made an effort to reign in Shiite death squads that attack Sunnis and then offered Sunnis their old government jobs from the Saddam era--a huge concession. Steps to reconcile and forgive like this will do more than any military solution. And as Zakaria said, with a Shia and Sunni agreement, Al Qaeda would be marginalized in the country.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-116387331621670804?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15459024/site/newsweek/' title='Rethinking Iraq'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/116387331621670804/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=116387331621670804' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/116387331621670804'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/116387331621670804'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2006/11/rethinking-iraq.html' title='Rethinking Iraq'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-116347961369063298</id><published>2006-11-13T20:16:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:36:17.803-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><title type='text'>Ted Haggard's Darkest Hour</title><content type='html'>The case of Ted Haggard and his recent fall from grace is a truly bizarre story. Haggard initially minimizes the accusations by Mike Jones (I bought meth from him, but didn't take it; I got a massage from him, but didn't have sex with him - sound familiar? "...but I didn't inhale"), but eventually confesses his own deception: "The fact is I am guilty of sexual immorality. I am a deceiver and a liar. There is a part of my life that is so repulsive and dark that I have been warring about it for my entire life..." He still says not all of what was claimed was true, but enough of it is. Meanwhile, Mike Jones passes a lie detector test partially--the part about him having sex with Haggard he fails. Perhaps he was stressed at that time, says the test implementer, and says he will do it over. Whatever the outcome is irrelevant now that Haggard has at least admitted deception, sexual immorality, and a "dark side".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Haggard is now mocked by the left and tolerated by the church, as a fallen brother, whose sin now exposed, was part of God's will as "God is a holy God and he chose this incredibly important timing for this sin to be revealed, and I actually think it's a good thing. I believe America needs a shaking, spiritually, " so said a leading board member of Haggard's church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God is using this to shake America? Isn't he using it to shake the church? Shouldn't people be angry that the church continues to foster deceptive leaders? Or, is there a deeper element that should be faced--the fact that narrow, legalistic teaching bears the bad fruit of deception, hypocrisy, and in some cases deep sexual frustration?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the bizarre elements of this is how no one seems to be asking how a anti-gay-rights evangelical influential leader could fall into homosexual sin in the first place! Doesn't it appear like he was a man struggling with homosexual orientation and finally gave in? If so, his story must be reminiscent of &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Stranger-Gate-Christian-America-Plume/dp/0452273811/sr=1-5/qid=1163361099/ref=sr_1_5/103-7522905-9078211?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books"&gt;Mel White's&lt;/a&gt;, although Mel didn't openly preach against homosexuality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In 2003, Haggard was quoted as the new President of the National Association of Evangelicals: "This is evangelicalism's finest hour. It is the time for evangelicalism to assert itself in the public debate of ideas." If that was their finest hour, today is one of their darkest. And, another piece of evidence that the church is in desperate need of a &lt;a href="http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2005/11/new-reformation.html"&gt;new reformation&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-116347961369063298?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2006/novemberweb-only/144-58.0.html' title='Ted Haggard&apos;s Darkest Hour'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/116347961369063298/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=116347961369063298' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/116347961369063298'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/116347961369063298'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2006/11/ted-haggards-darkest-hour.html' title='Ted Haggard&apos;s Darkest Hour'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-116336160556853326</id><published>2006-11-12T11:05:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:36:36.480-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Culture'/><title type='text'>Myths in the Media and in Public Thought</title><content type='html'>Did you know almost everything you know is wrong?  So says 20/20 consumer advocate John Stossel in his new book &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Myths-Lies-Downright-Stupidity-Shovel-Why/dp/1401302548/sr=1-1/qid=1163358016/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-7522905-9078211?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books"&gt;Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity&lt;/a&gt;. And he has a good point with a strong case.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have been flabbergasted how so much of what the media reports and how they frame debates is distorted and misrepresented. Headlines announce news and without reading the whole article or digging deeper into facts, you walk away with a distorted view. Or, the bias of the media outlet slants the issue the way they want. The result is many of us are duped. Stossel exposes this phenomenon with his fact-finding investigative approach. Here are some samples of his findings:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Myth:&lt;/strong&gt; DDT is dangerous to the environment. &lt;strong&gt;Truth:&lt;/strong&gt; DDT saves lives.&lt;br /&gt;I've been telling this story that DDT is way overhyped as a killer. It's only dangerous at very high levels and when public policy banned it years ago, it proved devastating for Africans. If the US funded DDT spraying, we could prevent the spread of malaria, but we don't and millions die.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Myth:&lt;/strong&gt; Gas prices are going through the roof. &lt;strong&gt;Truth:&lt;/strong&gt; Gasoline is a bargain.&lt;br /&gt;When adjusted for inflation, we still pay little for gas. In fact, factoring inflation, gas today is 69 cents cheaper than 1981!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Myth:&lt;/strong&gt; Outsourcing takes American jobs. &lt;strong&gt;Truth:&lt;/strong&gt; Outsourcing creates American jobs.&lt;br /&gt;Outsourcing helps the poor in the developing world and lowers prices and helps us consumers. Lower prices means we have more money to spend. Outsourcing also enables businesses to expand operations and create new and better jobs for Americans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Myth:&lt;/strong&gt; Republicans shrink government. &lt;strong&gt;Truth:&lt;/strong&gt; Republicans say they will, but don't&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Myth:&lt;/strong&gt; Government helps the needy. &lt;strong&gt;Truth:&lt;/strong&gt; Government hurts the needy by vomiting the public's money everywhere.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Myth:&lt;/strong&gt; Politicians (e.g. President and Congress) run America. &lt;strong&gt;Truth:&lt;/strong&gt; The people run America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Myth:&lt;/strong&gt; Public schools are underfunded. &lt;strong&gt;Truth:&lt;/strong&gt; They have lots of money.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Myth:&lt;/strong&gt; Business rip us off. &lt;strong&gt;Truth:&lt;/strong&gt; Most don't.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Myth:&lt;/strong&gt; Experts can cure homosexuality. &lt;strong&gt;Truth:&lt;/strong&gt; Experts delude themselves.&lt;br /&gt;(My thinking  on this one has changed and I agree with Stossel - see &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Stranger-Gate-Christian-America-Plume/dp/0452273811/sr=1-5/qid=1163361099/ref=sr_1_5/103-7522905-9078211?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books"&gt;Mel White&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Myth:&lt;/strong&gt; (a) Global warming is happening because of fossil-fuel burning and (b) signing the Kyoto Treaty would stop it. &lt;strong&gt;Truth:&lt;/strong&gt; (a) Maybe and (b) Hardly. &lt;br /&gt;The evidence points that it doesn't. See &lt;a href="http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html?id=3711460e-bd5a-475d-a6be-4db87559d605"&gt;Canadian scientists statement&lt;/a&gt;. Kyoto would hurt the poor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Myth:&lt;/strong&gt; Polygamy is cruel to women. &lt;strong&gt;Truth:&lt;/strong&gt; The women aren't complaining.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Myth:&lt;/strong&gt; John Stossel is a conservative. &lt;strong&gt;Truth:&lt;/strong&gt; John Stossel is a libertarian.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-116336160556853326?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.amazon.com/Myths-Lies-Downright-Stupidity-Shovel-Why/dp/1401302548/sr=1-1/qid=1163358016/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-7522905-9078211?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books' title='Myths in the Media and in Public Thought'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/116336160556853326/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=116336160556853326' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/116336160556853326'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/116336160556853326'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2006/11/myths-in-media-and-in-public-thought.html' title='Myths in the Media and in Public Thought'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-116275357755944436</id><published>2006-11-05T10:57:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2006-11-05T11:06:17.570-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Posts to Come</title><content type='html'>I've been so busy with my new job, I haven't had a chance to post much. I've got several subjects on my mind to post around including the Ted Haggard incident, John Stossel's new book called "Myths, Lies, and other Downright Stupidity", the Dead Sea Scrolls, the recent excellent Newsweek article on Iraq, and more about the Intelligent Design movement (just watched a video of Richard Dawkins visiting Ted Haggard's church -- a misrepresentation of the ID movement and a shameful display by Haggard, which reinforces again the need for a radical reformation in the church or else materialists and/or legalists will rule the day). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.technorati.com/claim/kq9ehqmhvd" rel="me"&gt;Technorati Profile&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-116275357755944436?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/116275357755944436/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=116275357755944436' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/116275357755944436'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/116275357755944436'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2006/11/posts-to-come.html' title='Posts to Come'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-115605688812757717</id><published>2006-08-19T23:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:36:56.208-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Intelligent Design'/><title type='text'>Who's the Dodos? Intelligent Design Theorists of Evolutionists?</title><content type='html'>Randy Olson, an evolutionary biologist, made a documentary called &lt;a href="http://www.flockofdodos.com/"&gt;Flock of Dodos.&lt;/a&gt; that makes the case that the success of Intelligent Design is merely from a slick PR campaign (by Seattle's Discovery Institute) and not based on real science. Olson says there is no crisis of evidence in evolution, but some people still don't believe in it because of a poor job of communication by scientists. The film (I've only seen the trailer and the ABC interview of Olson) attempts to discredit the ID movement by revealing who the real Dodos are--anyone who doubts in evolution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One thing Olson did well in the interview is to differentiate between Creationists and ID proponents, something that isn't often done. Creationists start with a literal belief in the book of Genesis and try to bend science to fit it. ID theorists don't begin with Genesis but only with the scientific evidence for design in nature. Yet excerpts from the film reveal evolutionists mixing them all together--one of them says we should call out supporters of creationism or ID and tell them "you're an idiot."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although, it appears to give both sides of the story, the film apparently leaves out much of the story. There IS dissent among scientists. 100 of them from universities signed the &lt;a href="http://www.dissentfromdarwin.org/"&gt;Scientific Dissent from Darwinism&lt;/a&gt;. Is this scientist in the film calling the likes of these--including agnostic David Berlinski and intellectual giant William F. Buckley, idiots? This debate is not a new PR battle that started in 2000, as the film claims. Biologist Michael Denton wrote &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/091756152X/103-1866781-7233426?v=glance&amp;amp;n=283155"&gt;Evolution: a Theory in Crisis&lt;/a&gt; in 1986. Mathmetician Berlinski, wrote &lt;a href="http://www.rae.org/dendar.html"&gt;The Deniable Darwin&lt;/a&gt; in 1996. UC Berkeley's Philip Johnson put &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0830813241/103-1866781-7233426?v=glance&amp;amp;n=283155l"&gt;Darwin on Trial&lt;/a&gt; in 1993. If one takes a truly objective look, the theory of evolution is in crisis. Even a Dodo can see that.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-115605688812757717?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.flockofdodos.com/' title='Who&apos;s the Dodos? Intelligent Design Theorists of Evolutionists?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/115605688812757717/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=115605688812757717' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/115605688812757717'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/115605688812757717'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2006/08/whos-dodos-intelligent-design.html' title='Who&apos;s the Dodos? Intelligent Design Theorists of Evolutionists?'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-115605313506070357</id><published>2006-08-19T22:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:37:48.840-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Universalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><title type='text'>Billy Graham the Moderate</title><content type='html'>Newsweek just ran a story on Billy Graham in his twilight years that was encouraging and revealing. The writer put Graham in a favorable light and highlighted his approach--over the years--of not making politics primary, but secondary to the Gospel "which transcends party lines." A few of the quotes jumped out at me as they reinforced much of how I have changed or never bought the conservative Christian party line.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Graham says "I'm not a literalist about the Bible in that every jot and tittle is from the Lord. This is a difference in my thinking through the years." And, "It would be foolish for me to speculate on who will be in heaven and who won't. He gave his son for the whole world, and I think he loves everybody regardless of what label they have."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wise words indeed.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-115605313506070357?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14204483/site/newsweek/' title='Billy Graham the Moderate'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/115605313506070357/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=115605313506070357' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/115605313506070357'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/115605313506070357'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2006/08/billy-graham-moderate.html' title='Billy Graham the Moderate'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-114788240502719260</id><published>2006-05-17T09:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:38:09.710-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evolution'/><title type='text'>Up From the Evolutionary Ooze</title><content type='html'>Hey, I got my letter from the post below (&lt;a href="http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2006/04/would-darwin-really-have-loved-it.html"&gt;Would Darwin Really Have Loved It?&lt;/a&gt;) published in Time magazine! Here is the excerpt they printed under the title "Up from the Ooze":&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here we go again. One transitional animal is discovered and "presto," Darwinism is undeniable. Paleontologist Novacek says “Some people will never be convinced,” and conveniently ignores the growing non-creationist voices of variance. Fishapod could be a link or could be a strange animal like a platypus. Without a worldwide fossil record of continuous transformation, it is far from a slam dunk for Darwin’s theory in action.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-114788240502719260?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,1189301,00.html' title='Up From the Evolutionary Ooze'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/114788240502719260/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=114788240502719260' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/114788240502719260'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/114788240502719260'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2006/05/up-from-evolutionary-ooze.html' title='Up From the Evolutionary Ooze'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-114529048884680976</id><published>2006-04-17T08:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:38:29.561-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sex'/><title type='text'>Divine Sex</title><content type='html'>Traditional Christian teaching on sex does not mesh with the original writings of the Bible set in their historical and cultural context. That is one premise in this important book by Philo Thelos (Divine Sex: Liberating Sex from Religious Tradition - click on title above). The book will shock card-carrying evangelicals or fundamentalists but simply can't be ignored. Again, my conservative Christian friends will think I've gone overboard with my endorsement of this book. The few I've shared it with think anyone who accepts it is ignoring the "clear" teaching of scripture and just wants to be free from moral constraints.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The book is compelling because the author is from a conservative church background and maintains a high view of scripture. He advocates for sound Bible study methods (original language, meaning, and historical context is key to understanding) in the vein of scholars like Gordon Fee. So, what's the controversy? He challenges traditional moral understanding about adultery, sexual immorality, and marriage fidelity with a sound Biblical argument.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For instance, have you ever wondered why polygamy, concubinage, and other multiple sexual relationships are practiced by Biblical heros without a word of censure from God? Did you know that if Bethsheba, with whom David had an adulterous liaison, was single,  he wouldn't have committed adultery? In the NT, the word translated "sexual immorality" or "fornication" is the Greek word "porneia", which refers to illicit and idolatrous practices as defined by the Torah and does not refer to singles sexuality, oral sex, masturbation, erotic writings, or viewing graphic depictions of the human body.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The main ethic that can be derived from the Bible regarding sexual practice is a love ethic. In your sexual life, do not harm another but love and respect your neighbor. Adultery is wrong because it takes what belongs to another (sexual theft) or breaks a commitment made to another. If in a marriage, a couple allows one another to engage in other relationships that don't steal what belongs to another, those relationships don't fit the Biblical definition of adultery. Monogamy and abstinence from sex until marriage is not demanded by the Scriptural definitions of porneia. The book Divine Sex convincingly makes this case and challenges the traditional faulty interpretations of sexual morality in the church today.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-114529048884680976?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1553954009/qid=1145286021/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-9583636-7169711?s=books&amp;v=glance&amp;n=283155' title='Divine Sex'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/114529048884680976/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=114529048884680976' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/114529048884680976'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/114529048884680976'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2006/04/divine-sex.html' title='Divine Sex'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-114505479329497517</id><published>2006-04-14T15:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:38:52.788-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evolution'/><title type='text'>Would Darwin Really Have Loved It?</title><content type='html'>Time magazine did an article on the Fishapod discovery (April 17) and the confident it-will-be-hard-to-explain-away attitude of some Darwinism supporters shined through. Here's my letter to the editor:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Fishapod: Cousin or Exotic Critter?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here we go again. One transitional animal is discovered and "presto," Darwinism is undeniable. Paleontologist Novacek says “Some people will never be convinced,” and conveniently ignores the growing non-creationist voices of variance. You know, “wackos” like William F. Buckley and avowed agnostic David Berlinski, not to mention the 100 reputable scientists who signed the Scientific Dissent from Darwinism statement. Sorry, Darwin expected “innumerable” and “endless” transitionals, not merely a few. Miller states “The argument that there are no transitionals is untenable.” Agreed! But the critique is not that there is none at all, but that the myriad of transitionals Darwin anticipated necessary to demonstrate macroevolution has never been found! One single discovery is unimpressive when you are expecting a plethora. Fishapod could be a link or could be a strange animal like a platypus. Without a worldwide fossil record of continuous transformation and demonstrable mechanisms of transition, it is far from a slam dunk for Darwin’s theory in action.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-114505479329497517?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.dissentfromdarwin.org/' title='Would Darwin Really Have Loved It?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/114505479329497517/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=114505479329497517' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/114505479329497517'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/114505479329497517'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2006/04/would-darwin-really-have-loved-it.html' title='Would Darwin Really Have Loved It?'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-114158108733117429</id><published>2006-03-05T09:20:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T16:00:07.943-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='fundamentalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sex'/><title type='text'>Idolatrous Interpretation of the Bible</title><content type='html'>When I was in college at U. Mass Amherst, a friend of mine from Intervarsity fellowship told me about the time she visited a cult meeting (I believe it was called "The Way"). She said, "I know this sounds strange, but it was like they worshiped the Bible, not God."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Years later, that statement doesn't sound so strange to me. I've seen too many times where a Bible verse or teaching (more accurately, a certain traditional unsound interpretation of a Bible passage or theme) is worshiped above a more historically, culturally based reading of that passage. A second type of this practice is what I call selective literalism. When a reader says they take the Bible literally but in reality only accepts passages that fit their theology. They worship their theology above truth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe the first main cause of this is the failure for churches to teach people good practices in studying the Bible. People who are told that it's the "Word of God" will take the English words in each verse at face value with little attention to the cultural, literary, or original-language context of those words. So a verse like "I wish above all things that you prosper", becomes 'God wants me and you to be wealthy'. "Flee sexual immorality", becomes 'Don't practice whatever I envision sexual immorality to be, e.g. masturbation, oral sex, viewing graphic sexual images, (all behaviors that the Bible doesn't address at all as a sin issue) or singles sexuality (a behavior that it addresses only as an ownership issue for a father or a bridegroom).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Selective literalism could take, for example, Jesus' discourse on the 'last days' and make it fit a present-day scenario (where every earthquake and disaster becomes "proof" that we are in the last days) but ignores Jesus' clear-cut statement "I tell you the truth, this [1st century] generation will not pass away until all these things take place". Or, refusing to address the obvious acceptance of polygamy, concubinage, and certain sexual freedoms in the OT, when interpreting sexual mores for today. Think about it.  How many times has one heard a Bible message on the implications of God honoring these figures in the Hebrews hall of faith: Samson, who slept with a prostitute and took Delilah as a girlfriend, Rahab the prostitute, and David who had several wives and concubines and to whom God said he would have given more if he only asked?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Idolatrous interpretation can be annoying at best and dangerous (see my comments on &lt;a href="http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2006/01/extremism-and-hypocrisy.html"&gt;Pat Robertson&lt;/a&gt;) at worst. Either way and even when it's sincere and well-meaning (often the case), it dishonors God to so casually call something his Word for people today when there is strong Biblical evidence to the contrary.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-114158108733117429?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/114158108733117429/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=114158108733117429' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/114158108733117429'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/114158108733117429'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2006/03/idolatrous-interpretation-of-bible.html' title='Idolatrous Interpretation of the Bible'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-114154788462289899</id><published>2006-03-05T00:23:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:39:37.432-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Depression'/><title type='text'>Make Happiness Normal</title><content type='html'>I disagree with the thesis of Time's article called "&lt;a href="http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,1156613,00.html?internalid=AP"&gt;Happiness Isn't Normal&lt;/a&gt;," (Feb. 13, 2006), about a new form of psychotherapy that tells people to embrace pain to overcome sadness. Face emotional pain, yes, but know need to embrace it, it can be overcome with a dose of realistic perspective and unconditional love, often through the vehicle of cognitive therapy. Here's my letter to the editor:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Having been depression-free for seven plus years due in large part to cognitive therapy, I am skeptical of Hayes' ACT therapy. Its refusal to challenge distorted thoughts dismisses reality and can only lead to its conclusion that happiness isn't normal. Cognitive therapy is superior, I believe, because it helps the depressed put things in proper perspective and to  overcome the tendencies of blowing negative things out of proportion and disqualifying positive things in life. The result is that the positive exceeds the negative and happiness is normal. Perhaps one reason ACT is having some success is because it does mimic cognitive therapy to some degree. When ACT teaches a response to a negative thought to be "I'm thinking I'm a lousy parent," rather than "I'm a lousy parent," it at least diffuses the power of that thought and plants a seed thought: "Since I'm only thinking it, perhaps I'm not one." Cognitive therapy does this more directly and by facing reality, not dismissing it.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-114154788462289899?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,1156613,00.html?internalid=AP' title='Make Happiness Normal'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/114154788462289899/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=114154788462289899' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/114154788462289899'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/114154788462289899'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2006/03/make-happiness-normal.html' title='Make Happiness Normal'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-114154604549963562</id><published>2006-03-04T23:33:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:40:04.293-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gay Rights'/><title type='text'>Challenging Closed Minds</title><content type='html'>World Magazine, the evangelical national news publication, did an article on Soulforce's Equality Ride (a group of young self-proclaimed evangelical homosexuals) campaign that is visiting Christian campuses to challenge their ban on gay and lesbian students (&lt;a href="http://www.worldmag.com/articles/11581"&gt;Uninvited Guests&lt;/a&gt;, March 4). Joel Belz first imagines a college deciding if they should allow a group of Muslims on campus who want to do a cultural exchange. That's seems fine, he concludes, it would give opportunity to build bridges, be a positive Christian witness to Muslims, without compromising the college's values. But then, what if the group was Soulforce's homosexual activists--part of Equality Ride? All of a sudden, that proposition makes Christian colleges uncomfortable. They wouldn't want them to show up, but might tolerate them for a discussion before sending them on their way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why are they unafraid of welcoming Muslims but afraid of welcoming homosexuals--even ones that call themselves believers? This is the closed-minded attitude that permeates many traditional Christian groups. They have already made up their mind because they already know the truth--so they say. If they are sure about the truth, they should not be intimidated. That is why they should welcome Equality Ride and encourage open dialogue. It should be interesting to see how the &lt;a href="http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible"&gt;20 campuses&lt;/a&gt; respond to these visits, including my graduate school, Eastern University. My experience is that we Christians don't always know what we are talking about when we say we know the truth about something. Misunderstandings, mistranslations, and misinterpretations of the Bible unfortunately are not uncommon. See &lt;a href="http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible"&gt;What the Bible Says...&lt;/a&gt; as an example.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-114154604549963562?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.equalityride.com/index.php' title='Challenging Closed Minds'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/114154604549963562/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=114154604549963562' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/114154604549963562'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/114154604549963562'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2006/03/challenging-closed-minds.html' title='Challenging Closed Minds'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-113864948185030800</id><published>2006-01-30T11:15:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:40:26.836-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Abortion'/><title type='text'>Rethinking Abortion</title><content type='html'>In college I was pro-choice. After reading Francis Schaefer and Everett Koop &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0891072918/qid=1138652858/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-8301126-9677624?s=books&amp;amp;v=glance&amp;amp;n=283155"&gt;(Whatever Happened to the Human Race?)&lt;/a&gt; and Bernard Nathanson (&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0523415389/qid=1138649522/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-8301126-9677624?s=books&amp;amp;v=glance&amp;amp;n=283155"&gt;Aborting America&lt;/a&gt;), I became pro-life and have been ever since. Why the change? New information I wasn't aware of. For example, Nathanson exposes some of the lies of the pre-Roe v Wade prochoice legal arguments and explains his transformation from being a co-founder of NARAL and a leading abortionist to recognizing the humaness of "alpha" (the fetus) and becoming a pro-life advocate. (I challenge everyone to read this book, whatever your side. Nathanson doesn't write as a right-winger but as an abortion movement insider). Koop brought his perspective as a pediatric surgeon and the value of human life. In 1989 I was arrested along with 800 others in Los Angeles at an Operation Rescue (OR) in front of a clinic and spent 3 days in jail. That was an eye-opening experience.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although I'm still strongly prolife, my stance has shifted over the years as I continue to learn new information. I no longer believe that abortion should be in the same category as murder, except perhaps in some extreme late-term circumstances. I now have no issue with allowing exceptions for abortion for rape or incest. I no longer think that we should have a nationwide ban on abortion, but instead we should allow the States to decide through the legislative process. Although my experience with OR was positive (the media and pro-choice counter demonstrators revealed extreme bias against us), I have found later statements by an OR founder to be divisive and out-of-line.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today, my main peeve with more traditional pro-life stance is the all-or-nothing and black-and-white attitude. It is our way or the highway and no room for compromise. My main peeve with the common pro-choice position is its disingenousness and unwillingness to face facts. If they were truly pro-choice, they would welcome the nationwide network of pregnancy help centers and encourage women to consider their services. They would admit the lies of their past (e.g. the exagerated claims on the number of deaths from backalley abortions, that "Roe" was not raped as was claimed in the case, and that she is now pro-life), and the fact that the Roe v Wade decision is based on flawed legal logic which is increasingly being conceded by pro-choice analysts. For example, see &lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/19/AR2005101901974.html"&gt;Cohen&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46798-2004Nov12.html"&gt;Kinsley&lt;/a&gt;, (Kinsley: "Although I'm pro-choice, I was taught in law school, and still believe, that Roe v Wade is a muddle of bad reasoning... and judicial overreaching.")&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's interesting that Cohen has shifted within a pro-choice position and is now closer to mine. Perhaps this is a one way to solve the abortion dilemma. Each side get honest and take steps toward each other.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-113864948185030800?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/19/AR2005101901974.html' title='Rethinking Abortion'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/113864948185030800/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=113864948185030800' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/113864948185030800'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/113864948185030800'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2006/01/rethinking-abortion.html' title='Rethinking Abortion'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-113761402824483002</id><published>2006-01-18T10:57:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:42:33.499-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Politics'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><title type='text'>Extremism and Hypocrisy</title><content type='html'>The statements I heard from politicians at MLK day events were laughable. Hillary Clinton said Congress was like a southern plantation (How? Are they holding slaves?!!) and Bush was the worst-ever President. New Orleans Mayor Nagin said God was punishing America with hurricanes for the Iraq war (a left version of Robertson?) and that God wanted his city to be majority black (a chocolate city). How outrageous and irrelevant to what Martin Luther King espoused! Why all this divisive talk on MLK day? Actually Nagin's statement was racist. How do you know? Just switch the terms. Imagine the outcry if a white mayor said God wanted his city to be majority white!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not to be outdone, Al Gore compared Bush's wiretapping of Americans to the FBI's dispicable surveillance of King. Seems Dems just used the day to make extreme political attacks. This criticism of wiretapping suspected terrorists and people talking to them boggles me. Presidents have historically used executive powers for this purpose. People conveniently forget that Democrats Clinton and Carter did. Clinton ordered physical searches without warrants &lt;a href="http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-12949.htm"&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt; Carter ordered electonic surveillance without court orders &lt;a href="http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo12139.htm"&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt; There are times when this is a good idea for national security. Court orders can take too long to get when suspected terrorists are plotting and time is cruical.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course these liberals don't have a monopoly on crazy statements or hypocrisy. Pat Robertson made another wild statement a few weeks ago about Ariel Sharon (He said "it may be that Sharon's being punished for giving up Gaza") and that the book of Joel shows that to give land to the Palestians is sin. This last one is a great example of Bible abuse. The book of Joel is not speaking to the middle east situation thousands of years in the future! To twist scripture to accuse Sharon is outrageous. And of course for more hypocrisy, there's conservative Christian leader  Ralph Reed who didn't see any conflict of interest asking evangelicals for money to block tribal casinos in the south when he knew another tribal casino was paying his firm for the work (via Jack Abramoff). This casino hired Abramoff and Reed to gain a monopoly. Reed didn't bother telling evangelicals that they were actually encouraging gambling, not where they lived, but just down the road or across the state border!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-113761402824483002?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/113761402824483002/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=113761402824483002' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/113761402824483002'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/113761402824483002'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2006/01/extremism-and-hypocrisy.html' title='Extremism and Hypocrisy'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-113639940566462003</id><published>2006-01-04T10:22:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-04-21T12:23:03.830-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gay Rights'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Homosexuality'/><title type='text'>The Bible and Homosexuality</title><content type='html'>If my evangelical friends thought I had gone overboard with my call to &lt;a href="http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2005/11/new-reformation.html"&gt;A New Reformation&lt;/a&gt;, they will think I’ve gone off the deep end with this assessment of homosexuality and the Bible!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have to admit, for years I have wondered how anyone could defend homosexuality in light of certain passages of the Bible. But that was before I did an honest study of those passages and discovered misinterpretations, AND  before I learned that several words in those passages are almost certainly mistranslated! I believe these misinterpretations and mistranslations are grave injustices that need to be rectified.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A few observations that are undeniable: Female homosexuality was never condemned in the Old Testament, hence it was not against God’s law. Female homosexuality is only mentioned once in the New Testament in a seven-word phrase, in the context of idolatry. (Romans 1). There is no Hebrew or Greek word in the Bible that is equivalent to our modern term “homosexual.” The word homosexual first appeared in English Bibles in the 1946 RSV version. The word “sodomite”, referring to a male homosexual, is not in the original Hebrew or Greek. The two words most often translated “homosexual” are the Greek words “malakos” and “arsenokoitai,” obscure Greek terms whose translations are disputed by scholars.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fact that female homosexuality is not condemned in the OT is amazing. If God was against all forms of homosexuality, why did He mention only male homosexuality in the Holiness code of Leviticus? The code also includes specific laws against incest (spelled out with attention to every conceivable sexual liaison), adultery, rape, and bestiality, but no law against female homosexuality. Its absence is a mystery, unless only certain forms of homosexuality are condemned. In addition, the NT teaches that “new covenant” believers have been released from the OT law. We are not obligated to obey the law, unless it becomes necessary in order to keep Christ’s law of love. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Context—literary, cultural, historical—is King when it comes to proper interpretation of the Bible. The passage in Romans condemning homosexuality is in the context of idolatry. The people doing these shameful acts are not worshiping the one true God, but idols. Are the acts shameful because they are homosexual or because they are part of idol worship? Shrine prostitution, with both male and females, was not uncommon in the Roman empire and among pagans throughout Israel’s history.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The term malakos is translated “effeminate”, “male prostitutes”, or “homosexuals”, depending on the version and literally means “soft” as an adjective. “Arsenokoitai” literally means “male bed”, and is translated “abusers of themselves with  mankind” (KJV), “homosexual offenders”, or “sodomites.” Put in their historical context, malakos  probably means “catamite” (New Jerusalem Bible), which is the young teen or boy in the common-for-the-day Greek/Roman pederastic relationship, with “arsenokoitai” probably referring to the men who used them sexually.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The church’s traditional view of homosexuality has not adequately explained these facts and perpetuates misunderstanding by not drawing attention to historical and cultural circumstances and the problems with the term “homosexual” as an English equivalent to the original Greek words. For a more detailed study, check the link on the title of this post.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-113639940566462003?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.truthsetsfree.net/study.html' title='The Bible and Homosexuality'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/113639940566462003/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=113639940566462003' title='26 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/113639940566462003'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/113639940566462003'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2006/01/bible-and-homosexuality.html' title='The Bible and Homosexuality'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>26</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-113639834885380574</id><published>2006-01-04T09:59:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:43:38.321-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='International Issues'/><title type='text'>Good Rich Samaritans</title><content type='html'>I was pleasantly surprised to see Bill and Melinda Gates and Bono as Time's Persons of the Year for 2005. I had mentioned them in previous posts on &lt;a href="http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2005/02/black-or-white-thinking.html"&gt;Black-and-White Thinking&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2005/11/caring-for-poor-and-fighting-poverty.html"&gt;Caring for the Poor and Fighting Poverty&lt;/a&gt;. It's great to see some good press on big business (so often stereotyped and demonized) and a serious entertainer activist. The Gates are doing amazing things in healthcare research and Bono has influenced politiicians to provide debt relief for developing nations and more money for AIDS programs. There's even a nice article about the odd couple, 41 Bush and Bill Clinton working together to raise relief funds.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-113639834885380574?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,1101051226,00.html' title='Good Rich Samaritans'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/113639834885380574/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=113639834885380574' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/113639834885380574'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/113639834885380574'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2006/01/good-rich-samaritans.html' title='Good Rich Samaritans'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-113510538603782080</id><published>2005-12-20T10:39:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:44:17.899-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><title type='text'>Refining a Reformation: A Response to Spong</title><content type='html'>As I write on the need for a new reformation (see Nov. 3) for Christianity, many people have told me my ideas are similar to John Shelby Spong's, who wrote Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism (a notion that I wholeheartedly agree with). Having never read him directly, I needed to, so delved into his latest book, The Sins of Scripture. What I discovered shocked me. Although I can agree with Spong on the need to rethink so much of what has become traditional Christianity (and agree with several of his conclusions), I believe he has succumbed to an emotional overeaction that reinforces to me the need for a more objective fact-based reform.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Spong believes much of the Bible is a fraud, stating, for example, that the idea of Jesus's suffering as atonement due to inborn sin is a human creation concocted by the early disciples to explain the crucifixion. He believes sadomasochism is in the heart of Christianity because God is portrayed as an angry Father who punishes people, and eventually His son, for the sin of humankind. But he doesn't offer objective evidence for this fraud, only a host of emotionally based arguments, some of them misusing Scripture the same way that fundamentalists do. He also ignores other evidences such as the NT manuscript evidence for historicity, Isaiah's predictions of a suffering servant who bares sin for the people, and the testimony of history of human evil that cries for justice--atrocities such as the Killing Fields, Rwanda massacres, the Holocaust, Stalin's purge, and the Armenian holocaust, to name only a few in our century.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Where Spong sees problems in Scripture, he often jumps to conclusions without attempting to understand the historical, cultural, and literary context, before making an intepretation--the very sin that proof-texting conservative Christians practice. For example, he says Matthew 27:25 (A Jewish crowd insists on Jesus' crucifixion in response to Pilate's plea of innocence,  "His blood be on us and on our children.") is responsible for anti-semitism and untold Jewish suffering and therefore a "sin of scripture." The question is did that event really happen? If misguided people misuse and abuse the recording of that event to justify anti-semitism, how does that make the writings sinful? A careful study of related texts shows that the NT is not anti-semitic (all its authors and the whole early church was Jewish, Paul told non-Jewish believers to not be arrogant or boastful to Jewish non-believers), but that a segment of Jewish people simply rejected Jesus (as did many non-Jews as well).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A careful study also indicates that God is not laying a guilt-trip on people (as many churches do as a result of misinterpretation) just because He sent a sacrifice for sins. The overall message is grace, not guilt, another NT theme that Spong ignores.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Spong fixates more on Scripture being fraudulent or guilty of false teaching. I agree that there are real problems with some biblical passages, but the solution is not to reject its teachings outright, but pursue correct translation, interpretation, and application in today's world. The problem is not so much Scripture, but people and institutions twisting and abusing it to justify evil or falsehoods. Without a new reformation, fundamentalism and much of evangelicalism on the right, will continue to abuse Scripture, and people like Spong, on the left, will continue to overeact to such abuses.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I respect Spong for making a bold call for change and will continue to read his position. However, I believe the change must be in line with historical truth found through sound exegesis, hermeanutics, and an honest study of canonicity and the nature/limits of biblical authority and inerrancy.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-113510538603782080?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/113510538603782080/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=113510538603782080' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/113510538603782080'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/113510538603782080'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2005/12/refining-reformation-response-to-spong.html' title='Refining a Reformation: A Response to Spong'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-113211220352321926</id><published>2005-11-15T19:28:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:44:41.373-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Intelligent Design'/><title type='text'>Intelligent Design Theory Revealed</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;With the Dover, PA case, Intelligent Design (ID) theory is in the news. A local school board tried to legislate (the operative word is "legislate") that science teachers read a disclaimer to students that evolution is not universally accepted and that ID theory offers an alternative scientific perspective. Eventually the school board was voted out. But what is the real issue at hand here? On the one hand, knee-jerk reactions from staunch evolutionists were that this was a back-door attempt to introduce religion and "creationism" into the classroom. On the other hand, the appalling response from conservative Christian Pat Robertson was that Dover, Pennsylvanians should not bother calling on God should a future disaster come their way since they denied Him with their vote! Really now, why do extremist views get all the press?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First of all, ID theory is not a new brand of creation science. Anyone who understands the debate knows this. Creation science is based on a literal interpretation of the book of Genesis and tries to support a young earth, a worldwide flood, and a literal six-day creation timeframe among other things. ID theorists don't support these assertions at all. Authentic ID theorists and the related and growing critics of evolution are not presupposing a literal reading of the Bible, but rather are simply pointing out the real problems with neo-Darwinism and specifically the mechanism that drives evolutionary theory--random mutations and natural selection. Yea, but aren't they closet fundamentalists pushing their agenda through a new means? Hardly. A case in point is David Berlinski, avowed agnostic, and one of Darwinism's harshest critics, who debates along side ID theorists against macro-evolution (check link in title).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, the Dover school board probably did include Christians who wanted to use ID theory to fight evolution. Their mistake, I believe, was trying to legislate rather than encourage science teachers who choose, to bring the scientific literature that critiques Darwinism into the classroom. There is real discrimination to those who attempt this (one teacher in Bellingham, WA did this a few years ago and got the boot).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, who does Pat Robertson think he is? Those who voted against the school board aren't necessarily against ID theory, but perhaps against legislating its promotion. Others probably are not well informed about it with all the hype and half-truths out there. And even if they are well informed, what happened to the grace of God?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-113211220352321926?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.arn.org/docs/berlinski/db_deniabledarwin0696.htm' title='Intelligent Design Theory Revealed'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/113211220352321926/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=113211220352321926' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/113211220352321926'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/113211220352321926'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2005/11/intelligent-design-theory-revealed.html' title='Intelligent Design Theory Revealed'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-113138027250200546</id><published>2005-11-07T07:56:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:45:04.835-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='International Issues'/><title type='text'>Caring for the Poor and Fighting Poverty</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I'm ashamed I haven't given to the Pakistani earthquake relief effort yet. I could use the excuse that I was recently layed off from my job, but that doesn't cut it. They estimate 2.5 million people are homeless out in the open cold weather as winter approaches. The least I could do is give a few bucks out of my savings or forego a few meals and donate the saved cost. Caring for the poor often takes sacrifice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Relief efforts are usually what people focus on when they think of helping the poor. More importantly is the long-term work of development that helps people overcome poverty and could make an earthquake such as Pakistan less devestating. This ongoing fighting poverty can be in the form of a variety of self-help programs such as the provison of microenterprise loans that enable the enterprising poor to run succesful businesses or agricultural inputs to improve food production.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Pedro Alonso, a Spaniard working in Mozambique, is a malaria fighter (Time, 11/7, page 88). He is working on a malaria vaccine for children with the help of the Malaria Vaccine Initiative, which was started by the Gates Foundation (Malaria is a bigger killer than AIDS in Africa and efforts to fight it are often overlooked). Yours and mine two cents or occaissional $100 bucks to fight poverty all helps the cause but don't ignore the great contributions of affluent philanthropists such as Bill and Melinda Gates. People fault the rich for being rich but when they let their hearts guide them rather than greed they can do enormous good. While working at World Vision as a grant writer I saw both indivdual philanthropists and corporations give millions of dollars. Capitalism mixed with compassion cares for the poor and fights to overcome poverty. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-113138027250200546?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.worldvision.org/' title='Caring for the Poor and Fighting Poverty'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/113138027250200546/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=113138027250200546' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/113138027250200546'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/113138027250200546'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2005/11/caring-for-poor-and-fighting-poverty.html' title='Caring for the Poor and Fighting Poverty'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-113107677506312881</id><published>2005-11-03T19:57:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:50:52.941-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sex'/><title type='text'>A New Reformation</title><content type='html'>Christianity needs another reformation. It’s been almost 500 years since Luther tacked his 95 theses to the door of the Wittenburg cathedral that drew attention to the corrupt and misguided practices of the Catholic church. The Protestant movement produced great reforms including freely-translated scriptures, the end of the practice of indulgences, marriage for Christian leaders, and many others. Although Catholicism has had some positive changes in recent years it still needs radical change (e.g. optional marriage for priests and nuns) since it never had its own reformation. Evangelical and fundamentalist Christianity are steeped in beliefs and practices that I believe are in dire need of reform. What reforms are necessary? Here are six important ones:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Honorable Interpretation of Scriptures – Very few Pastors and Leaders teach people how to study the Bible honorably. Verses are commonly taken out of context, sound historical and cultural considerations are rarely taught, original language is usually ignored, and there is widespread confusion about what literalism really means. Conservatives practice what I call “selective literalism”, in which someone selects a verse that supports their view and says, “The Bible says…” while ignoring the full context of the passage, linguistic, historical, and cultural facts, translation alternatives, and other verses in the Bible that bring clarity. Also, albeit a small percentage, there are a number of key mistranslations of words or passages in the majority of English Bibles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Limits to the Authority of the Bible – Far too often, the OT is casually quoted as if it has equal authority with Christ and His new convenant. Inerrancy defenders have never adequately explained the obvious discrepancies in many Biblical passages (claiming the original documents were inerrant just reinforces that we don't have an inerrant Bible in our hands). Advice from Paul to the early church, 2000 years removed from our modern context, is blindly accepted as law for believers today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. Freedom in Christian Behavior – So much Christian teaching ignores the established fact that believers in Christ are “released from the Law” (Romans chapters one thru 10) and in fact, released from a Law-based approach to God. Nevertheless, performance-oriented Christianity is rampant. Believers are told a host of commands that are either derived from the OT law that they aren’t under (e.g. tithe 10 percent to the church and attend church weekly), concocted from a law-based reading of the NT (e.g. establish a daily prayer time and regular “witness”, don’t allow women in leadership), or created from traditional non-biblical teaching (e.g. do not drink, dance, go to certain movies, engage in singles sexuality, etc.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. Ensuring Love is Fulfillment of the Law – Rather than making Christ’s and Paul’s command to make love for God and love for neighbor the guiding principle for Christian behavior, churches have made adherance to a set of both written and unwritten laws and a traditional non-biblical definition of holiness the standard.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. Refutation of Dangerous and/or Misguided Teaching – The church has done well refuting cults but failed in its refutation and denouncement of cultic-like (at worst) and misinformed (at best) teaching such as the seven-year tribulation belief (Left Behind), non-scientific origins teaching (Creationism), condemnation of homosexuals, and extreme anti-abortion teaching.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. Reform of Sexual Mores – The church adheres to a sexual standard based on tradition more than the Biblical record. Behaviors such as masturbation, singles sexuality, nudity, and certain sexual practices are condemned by inference not direct Biblical admonitions (e.g. the word translated ‘fornication’ or ‘sexual immorality’ is from the Greek word ‘porneia’ which historically didn’t include all sex before marriage or masturbation). Church moralists ignore the obvious Biblical acceptance of polygamy, concubinage, sex with servants, certain forms of prostitution, the erotic literature of Solomon, the property-related context of the Jewish view of adultery, and the practice of heterosexual and homosexual shrine prostitution (false worship to false gods) when interpreting right sexual mores for today.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-113107677506312881?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/113107677506312881/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=113107677506312881' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/113107677506312881'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/113107677506312881'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2005/11/new-reformation.html' title='A New Reformation'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-113068818861636002</id><published>2005-10-30T07:58:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:46:47.573-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Depression'/><title type='text'>How I Overcame Depression</title><content type='html'>Nine years ago I was diagnosed by a psychologist with post traumatic stress disorder stemming from serious personal conflicts while working in Africa for five years. Later, another psychologist said I had "aggravated depression." For three and a half years I endured the intense, debilitating mental anguish that is depression. It was worse than any physical suffering I had, including malaria, hepatitis, and appendicitis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank my Creator that He showed me a way out of the suffering and I have been depression-free for over six years. Although it was recommended by my first counselor, I took no drugs or medication. I'm here to say there is a way out from this common condition without being dependent on drugs. Our society is drug-crazy with doctors and psychologists prescribing a drug at the drop of a hat. I've met so many people who are on anti-depressants but are not dealing with the root issues of their depression. Drugs can be a good temporary solution to help people cope with the mental pain. (I probably should have taken something at the most intense time of my condition to minimize the anxiety and intense stress). But I believe they should be a short-term solution (with some exceptions to conditions that are truly caused by chemical imbalance) to get one over a hump while they tackle the root causes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How did I finally overcome the funk? It's a long story but the short answer is through cognitive therapy. My second psychologist was brilliant in helping me uncover some childhood issues that had made me susceptble to depression all along. He gave me tools to combat negative thinking. I also did my own study and discovered a key book that helps one overcome distorted thinking (click on title for link). We feel what we think and if we are barraged by negative, self-criticizing thoughts (sometimes not even noticed), then we will inevitbly become depressed. The way out is knowing the lies we think and combating them with rational responses and the truth. In my opinion, the this needs to include the truth about our Creator's unconditional love and acceptance.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-113068818861636002?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0380810336/104-9828167-7944709?v=glance&amp;n=283155&amp;s=books&amp;v=glance' title='How I Overcame Depression'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/113068818861636002/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=113068818861636002' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/113068818861636002'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/113068818861636002'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2005/10/how-i-overcame-depression.html' title='How I Overcame Depression'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-112061506321954566</id><published>2005-07-05T18:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:47:13.398-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sex'/><title type='text'>Who Defines Sexual Morality?</title><content type='html'>The New Testment contains a Greek word that describes outlawed sexual behavior. The word is "porneia" which is commonly rendered as "fornication" or "sexual immorality" in modern English Bible translations. According to the Miriam-Webster dictionary, fornication means "consensual sexual intercourse between two persons not married to each other." The problem is that porneia is a broad, general term that means sexual behavior condemned by God in His law, which is spelled out in detail in the Holiness Code of Leviticus. Porneia includes, but is not limited to, incest, rape, and adultery. Obviously "fornication" is a bad translation, since it is limited to "consensual" behavior. Furthermore, there are examples of people in the Old Testament where two people not married to each other had sex and it was not considered sin. Many godly men of God had concubines, for example, and the law in Exodus had provision for a man to have sex with a slave or servant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The other term commonly used, "sexual immoratity" (NIV), is a better choice for the English but still leaves open the question of what it entails. It is rarely, if ever, used as the general term it should mean: "illicit sexual behavior as defined by the Torah". It is usually used as a term to define anything the hearer believes is immoral sexually, so polygamy, concubinage, singles sexuality, viewing pornagraphy (another term that needs defining) all forms of homosexuality, and even masturbation is usually included in the concept. Again the problem is that the way "porneia" is used in the NT and in the OT Greek translation (Septuagint), it refers to a set of well-defined outlawed sexual behaviors. To see what it actually means, one must go back to its roots. Porneia in the OT was assocated with the a long list of specific sins found in Leviticus like adultery, bestiality, incest (very detailed on what constitutes it), idolatry-related sexual behavior, and rape.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the NT, the best way to determine what it means is to look at the places where it is mentioned that includes examples. (When the word is used in a list, it doesn't provide a clue of its meaning). There are only four that I have found and they describe incest (where Paul says "a man has his father's wife"), adultery (where Paul says don't defraud a brother), sexual idolatry (where Paul cites a story from Numbers that is clearly about idolatry), and prostitution (where Pauls says don't unite Christ in you with a harlot).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, why does the church associate other things with sexual immorality beyond these such as singles sexuality, polygamy, masturbation, pornagraphy, oral sex, and other behaviors?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-112061506321954566?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0800624769/qid=1122948012/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_9/002-4733919-2173652?v=glance&amp;s=books' title='Who Defines Sexual Morality?'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/112061506321954566/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=112061506321954566' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/112061506321954566'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/112061506321954566'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2005/07/who-defines-sexual-morality.html' title='Who Defines Sexual Morality?'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-111890017616469948</id><published>2005-06-15T22:09:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:47:35.351-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sex'/><title type='text'>A Sex-Negative Society</title><content type='html'>I was at an AIDS conference with World Vision in 2003. World Vision has an approach to AIDS similar to the Ugandan government's. It's called the ABC strategy. A-abstinence, B-be faithful, and C-condoms. Education is geared around teaching young people to be abstinent, married people to remain faithful, but for those who are unable or unwilling to do A or B, they are taught to use condoms. The approach has helped Uganda decrease their AIDS rate drastically.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While there, I met an Anglican priest from Uganda who is HIV positive and was a leader in the ministry. A group called Concerned Women for America (CWA) passed out literature condemning World Vision's promotion of condoms on moral grounds. After my new acquaintence read the literature that they passed out, he openly wept. "Don't they see how unloving this is?" he said. "What about women who are married to someone who they suspect may be HIV positive? Or those who are resort to prostitution to feed their children?" I thought to myself "Yes indeed, not to mention those who choose what society calls an immoral lifestyle. Where is the compassion in holding information that could save their life?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a good example of a sex-negative society or culture which is common in the church. A standard is set that sex is bad except in narrow circumstances. Even if someone is faced with a life-threatening disease, people are not told to try to protect themselves or their partners, only to follow the strict standard. The narrow view of groups like CWA ignores the complexities and realities of human relationships and sexual behavior and says "Accept our standards or risk getting a incurable disease." There is no room for different views on the standard or allowing someone time to become ready to change their behavior.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-111890017616469948?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/tgr/06/3/gr060301.html' title='A Sex-Negative Society'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/111890017616469948/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=111890017616469948' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/111890017616469948'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/111890017616469948'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2005/06/sex-negative-society.html' title='A Sex-Negative Society'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-110765101284534483</id><published>2005-02-05T15:24:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:48:20.852-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eschatology'/><title type='text'>Last Days Madness</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;The madness over this is mind-boggling! Popularized by Hal Lindsey's 1970's book "The Late Great Planet Earth" and the recent "Left Behind" best-selling novels by Tim LaHaye, the premise of this belief is that the Bible predicts the end of the world and the return of Christ amidst a tribulation period of worldwide suffering and plagues. Some versions like Lindsay's and LaHaye's say true believers in Jesus will be raptured (taken from the earth to heaven) before this 7-year tribulation period and escape its horrors (not all evangelicals believe this version). The problem I have is the last days mentality is at best a silly interpretation full of half-truths, and at worst a gross misreading of the Bible that promotes myths and outright lies. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;There isn't enough space in this short blurb to make the case for this (see link on title for a book that carefully dissects the flaws of end-times theology). Suffice it to say that Jesus described a time of tribulation and then declared "I tell you the truth, this generation shall not pass away until all these things come to pass." Here the literalists refuse to take Jesus' words literally. The generation alive who heard Christ's words would not die out before these "end-times" events took place. That fits perfectly with the incredibly terrible times in the Roman Empire from around 64 to 70 AD when Roman legions took seige of Jerusalem, Christians were persecuted under Nero, earthquakes occured, comets were sighted, civil wars were fought, and the Jewish capital, temple, and way of religous life (e.g. sacrifical system) were utlimately destroyed. The historian Josephus describes this period in detail. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;But if the overwhelming majority of end-time catostraphic events have already occured, where is the drama in that? The answer is there is none. Nor should there be in my opinion. The modern version of end-times theology with the Left-Behind-style rapture was developed in the 19th century by an Irish priest named John Nelson Darby. It was never taught by the early church. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Some claim the fruit of end-times books is people thinking seriously about their standing with God, even if the story line may not be based soundly on scripture. But it equally results in people not taking scripture or its proponents seriously. Nicholas Kristoff, a columnist for the NY Times, interpreted the "Glorious Appearing" book by LaHaye as a study in intolerance and a re-portrayal of Jesus presiding over a militant christianity. Playboy magazine, speaking on U.S. middle east policy, mocked believers as succumbing to an extraordinary delusion in believing in the rapture-style last days scenario and interpreting today's events in light of it. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;The bottom line is integrity. The traditional modern fundamentailist or evangelical church view on the end-times has no scriptural or historical integrity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-110765101284534483?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0915815354/qid=1107645928/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/103-9592381-9159002' title='Last Days Madness'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/110765101284534483/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=110765101284534483' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/110765101284534483'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/110765101284534483'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2005/02/last-days-madness.html' title='Last Days Madness'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-110764436131168617</id><published>2005-02-05T14:02:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:49:48.437-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='International Issues'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Culture'/><title type='text'>Black-and-White Thinking</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Who would have thought that Bono (U2) and Jesse Helms would be contributors to the same book (The Awake Project, Uniting Against the African AIDS Crisis) and that they would be arguing the same case. There is a way of thought---black-and-white thinking---that puts people in a neat little box. One is either on the right side or not, in this type of mind. Liberals think conervatives are greedy, non-caring capitalists who love to rape the earth, and conservatives think liberals are immoral, paternalistic socialists who love to control the masses. In my experience, many on each side swallow the stereotypes and usually seriously misunderstand each other. Why? They can't get out of the rut of black-and-white thinking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From what I can tell, Bono is a Bible-honoring believer in Christ. Unfortunately he doesn't fit the evangelical mold (with their speak-dress-sing-look-behave-like-us mentality) so is normally dismissed as a spiritual voice. Jesse Helms said he was ashamed he had not done more for the world's AIDS pandemic and then argued for more funds for projects. I was surpised to read that. I had put him in a box. I needed to relearn that life is often not black or white, but shades of gray.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When people criticize President Bush, for example, because of his supposed unjust policies, they usually overlook important facts. For example, he was the first president to commit $50 billion to combat AIDS internationally (and was a contributor to that book along with Kofi Annan and Nelson Mandela), had the most ethnically diverse cabinet in history his first term, and implemeted a foreign policy that has freed millions of women and men from some of the most repressive totalitarian regimes the world has seen. On the last achievment, one may disagree with the means, but they shouldn't allow black-or-whtie thinking from clouding the obviously just results.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a place for calling a spade a spade. There are fundamental and structural evils in the world and just and good princples. But people are complex. It shouldn't take an AIDS crisis to see where we all have common ground. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-110764436131168617?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0849944090/103-9592381-9159002?v=glance' title='Black-and-White Thinking'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/110764436131168617/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=110764436131168617' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/110764436131168617'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/110764436131168617'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2005/02/black-or-white-thinking.html' title='Black-and-White Thinking'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-110611489086979965</id><published>2005-01-18T21:37:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:49:22.398-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Abortion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Culture'/><title type='text'>Beware of Group Think</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;My favorite feminist is the former Director of the L.A. chapter of NOW, Tammy Bruce, because she breaks the mold. She is openly gay, pro-choice, gun-owning, pro-death penalty, and voted for President Bush! I may not always agree with her but I love her spunk. You can't type someone like that in stereo. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Recently I heard her speak at Florida State University about some of her experiences as a NOW Director and progressive feminist with a conservative bent. One of the things she noticed was how colleagues in the pro-choice movement would react win she or someone else within the ranks would question or consider a new perspective outside the party-line. There were a lot of black-and-white thinkers who could not handle alternate perspectives and would question a member's loyalty if they deviated. A kind of group-think mentality developed where one was afraid to differ or disagree. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;I have seen this same attitude in many churches and in evangelicalism. There is a general understanding that one must hold to certain views, beliefs, doctrines, perspectives, and political thought. I'm not saying a group shouldn't have core values and beliefs they share. But the black-and-white mentality can take over a group so that the gray areas are forced to go black or white. If it goes too far it becomes very unhealthy. A person can lose their individualism as they are consumed with fitting into a fellowship, avoiding conflict (which is not always unhealthy), and sacrifice their own personhood on the alter of group-think. Independent thinkers can't handle this, which is probably why Ms. Bruce left NOW and is who she is today. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;"  &gt;The key I suppose is striking a balance between sharing a broad set of core values or principles and welcoming independent thought--not always an easy thing to do but well worth the effort.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-110611489086979965?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.tammybruce.com/' title='Beware of Group Think'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/110611489086979965/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=110611489086979965' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/110611489086979965'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/110611489086979965'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2005/01/beware-of-group-think.html' title='Beware of Group Think'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10223554.post-110602257697666933</id><published>2005-01-17T19:53:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-01-02T15:50:27.114-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Faith'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Culture'/><title type='text'>Rethinking Faith and Freedom</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;I was inspired to create this blog after watching the recent movie called Luther about the 16th century reformer played by Joseph Fiennes (Shakespeare in Love). Martin Luther, after seeing many abuses and misuses of religion in his day, rethought his faith and culture and helped restore Christianity to much of its original core and freedom. I hope to address many similar issues of our day where there is a need to rethink, restore, and perhaps even reform our ideas in the areas of faith, politics, culture, and sexuality. I have had to rethink issues in my life, sometimes a few times over, when confronted with new-found knowledge, facts, or truth, and some of these posts will describe such instances, while others will ask new questions or simply reinforce time-tested answers. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Luther was an independent thinker and I share that tendency. To all those who insist on thinking for themselves, I invite you to grab a mug of your favorite brew and hang-out in this Pub; share your comments, so that myself and others can learn from your experience, or just have a good read. Ironically, the day I post this is Martin Luther King day 2005, a time to honor another great independent thinker who also rethought and reformed the culture and freedoms of his day. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/10223554-110602257697666933?l=deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://lutherthemovie.com/' title='Rethinking Faith and Freedom'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/feeds/110602257697666933/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=10223554&amp;postID=110602257697666933' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/110602257697666933'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10223554/posts/default/110602257697666933'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://deepthoughtpub.blogspot.com/2005/01/rethinking-faith-and-freedom.html' title='Rethinking Faith and Freedom'/><author><name>Michael Camp</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10829571894675059682</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-br6AsYlCkek/TnZITJCHY_I/AAAAAAAAACU/KUyps0WlqfU/s220/mcamp-new.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry></feed>
